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Rob Ellis
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Lance. I am enjoying the 737 very much,...I feel like it will be a long time, if ever, before I will ever need to upgrade my pre-amp.

But I mainly wanted to make clear that I didn't get it because I was unhappy with the Focusrite Voicemaster Platinum.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob, for what it's worth, I used a TLM-103/Focusrite VMPP combo for about three years. It was just fine. I achieved every VO goal I had ever set for myself with that setup. And I would have still had it, if not for the crappy quality of the switches (the ones with the red lights) that are poorly designed and almost certain to fail sometime after the warranty expires. Getting the switches replaced out of warranty (with the same crummy switches, which will also fail) was almost as expensive as buying a new unit and they are NOT user serviceable.

I actually toyed with the idea of buying two or three of those VMPP boxes and considering them "disposable", but I decided not to reward Focusrite with any more business.

Try your 737sp sometime with a Neumann 170 if you get the chance. Another great combination.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff,

What pre-amp are you using now?

The TLM 170....? Hmm...So many Neumanns, so little..... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edo wrote:
Hey Yoda,

I'd have to guess from the top of my mind for I'm in the Dutch Caribbean at the moment and the Millennia sits in my rack in my studio in The Netherlands... but if I remember correctly there's 3 or more different types of tubes. Amongst them I recall ECC83/12AX7, 12AT7 and probably 12AU7 as well, not quite sure. I got NOS tubes with the unit, the ones that were in there (the demo unit traveled around quite a bit for a number of months) went back to the pro audio dealer.

Would you know whether your replacement tubes have similar specs to mine? I am not that familiar with internal structure of the tubes in question, hence I'm not very anxious to replace them next time I go back to Holland.


5 tubes, 12AX7, 12AT7, and 12AU7. They all have the same pin layouts, so you can somewhat mix and match, however you'll find that the biggest difference between them is the gain factor for each type. If you've got an input with a 12AX7 and it's overdriving a bit too much, just swap it out with a lower gain, such as a 12AT7.

Here is a link that might help you out: http://www.harpamps.com/micKtubes/12AX7-vs-7025.html
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rellis wrote:
Jeff,

What pre-amp are you using now?


Rob,

After giving lots of thought about a 737, I decided dig a little deeper and went with a Requisite PAL Plus MkIII about a year ago. That's my main rig. My secondary/backup pre is a UA LA-610 Signature Ed. that I recently took delivery on.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gotta tell ya, the 737 is probably my single most favorite audio component that I own. It took my v/o's to another level. I would buy another one in a heartbeat if something ever happened to mine. Actually, something did happen after 6 months of ownership. If any of you buy one, be CERTAIN that your not using phantom power TWICE as it will fry the I/O board. It's a cheap fix ($50) but let me tell you from firsthand experience that the sight of smoke billowing out of the top of your $2500 pre will freak you out.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marko wrote:
If any of you buy one, be CERTAIN that your not using phantom power TWICE as it will fry the I/O board.


there's only one phantom power button on the 737 - were you using a mic powered and THEN ran it into the 737 w/ the +48v switch on as well?

-Anthony
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I should have clarified that. At the time, I was using an MBox w/phantom and giving it extra phantom with the 737. I figured, two phantoms were better than one. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ouch... yeah, that's a bad idea.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marko wrote:
I figured, two phantoms were better than one. Wink


Now that is VO funny!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL - did you hit CRTL+Z
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, we've used it before, but it seems that we've got another PEBKAC here.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't planning on picking up a 737sp, but a local studio is going out of business and was having a fire sale, so I grabbed it. It was only two years old, barely used, and perfect. I very much like the way it sounds. Smooth, rich and creamy. I couldn't pass it up for the price and figured if I didn't like it, I could flip it easily and probably make a few bucks in the process. But I'm digging it. It's a keeper.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some times where I wish CTRL-Z worked for stuff I've said.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deirdre,

Me too! Many, many times.
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