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dagoldenknight86 · Guest

My thoughts.. I never really liked the sound of a record. The only time I ever used one was to convert my Mom's Elvis record to CD (also eliminated the pops hiss ect). I think the perfect example of "warmth" is a good reel to reel. In fact I know a few bands / producers still use tape because it is so "warm". A problem I'm facing at my radio station (we're doing a total make over, everything will be 100% digital and we're getting ready for HD) is the solid digital sound is very clean / flat. Altho with a great tube pre-amp it sounds ok. With work and great equipment and uncompressed audio you can get a pretty warm sound.

that's my two cents. Smile

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Jowillie · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject:

dagoldenknight86 · Guest

Yeah, We're doing everything uncompressed 90 something K in resolution. It's really a sweet set up. My new production board has flying faders... I think half my time will be spent playing with those Inoccent

Frank F · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject:

Sorry folks, what seems to be the theme here in the last few folks posts is: digital v. analog.

I am still partial to the sound of analog recordings. But "warmth" is not a product of either digital or analog (although analog does have a more "passionate" sound).

CWtoo: Thank you for the revised and revived version of the "Lettermen" classic.

"I believe" you will find the right answers if you explore your current digital set-ups. Find and listen for "presense and warmth" in the so-called "rythmic" or "urban-urban AC" or most curent music which uses a chain of DDDA (Digital recording to Digital mastering to Digital distribution to Analog playback -- yes, your headphones are an analog device, we do not have the capability to hear one's and oh's). This sterile environment is not what I would call warm and friendly, this environment is just, sterile.

Find an older CD which was recorded ADDA. You will find a warmer, richer, more robust sound which has nothing to do with processing.

Find a two inch analog recording and play it back on some Klipsch LaScala's, K-horn's, or good JBL's. Then listen to the differences of a current DDDA recording of the same music and the original analog waveform... I believe you will be surprised at what you are hearing.

Find comfort in your EQ's and pre-amps if you will... I am old, fat, and sassy... and I believe in the old analog ways; although I have to "put up with" todays digital world.

I guess I am an antique.

Toodles

Frank F
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Jeffrey Kafer · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject:

bobbinbeamo · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject:

This is an interesting discussion on mics. Speaking of Neumann, do any of the women here have any experiences to share about the TLM 103?
I've heard this large-diaphram model sounds "warm" at a fraction of the U87i, and is good for women's voices.
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Diane Maggipinto · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject:

not on the tlm 103, bobbin, but i did have a sesh last week with the U87.

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Yoda117 · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject:

despite what anyone says, the TLM103 is not a "poor man's U87", it's a "poor man's Neumann".

When I've heard it on women's voices, I've rarely liked the sound. I find it better as an overhead mic and on some male voices, some female voices, but regardless of gender the mic was always more picky about the preamp than I would have expected.

For the same cost, I'd look at the Gefell UM930, which is what I think the TLM103 ought to have been, but somehow wasn't. If you want a "poor man's U87", check out the UMT70s, also by Gefell. I didn't like it for my voice, but every woman I ever heard on it sounded great.

If you're looking for something more neutral, peek at the U89.

For my tastes with the U87, I'm enjoying the AI through a good pre with transformer.

...though not nearly as much as my Horch Wink

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bobbinbeamo · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject:

Thanks Yoda117 for your recommendations. Diane, I am assuming your "sesh" with the U87 made you sound reallllly great.
As for me, I listened to myself recently through one and I sounded warm, but almost all bass. The midrange seemed non-existent. I am still investigating it all for now. I have a session off-site tomorrow. I'll be talkin'mics with the studio engineer.
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