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LDC Mic shootout- China vs. Germany
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Which mic do you prefer?
Mic A
50%
 50%  [ 6 ]
Mic B
33%
 33%  [ 4 ]
Can't tell a difference!
16%
 16%  [ 2 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:59 pm    Post subject: LDC Mic shootout- China vs. Germany Reply with quote

Here's a short mic comparison between a chinese and german mic of similar design, just for fun:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/do3ndrq5fucnsrh/GeorgeWhittam-LCD-test_4-3-14.wav
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At first listen on smaller, yet good, speakers, A sounds more balanced and a bit stronger. B sounds a bit "cheaper."
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both sound good. Mic B has a bit more timbre. Both are quite usable.
Didn't hear any vices.

That said, differences show up more when doing actual VO where you might be pushing your voice a bit. Sibilance rears its head.

Both sound pretty well rounded in the file.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll post another sample that reveals the two models after we've had 10 or so responses. No clear winner yet!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To close to call either way I think... but I suspect there's a whole boatload of dollars difference. My guess is the German is at least five times as expensive (103?)... but, based on this sample, I wouldn't bet any money on which is which!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will reserve my guesses until after the Big Reveal. However, my preference is Mic A.

Mic A is smooth and does not have any harsh/brittleness revealed in the word "microphone" on both mics.

Mic B is not bad, although a different placement would be demanded when addressing this microphone. It is not as smooth and silky as I would expect, indicating things which I will not present at this time.

Microphone B would however be something which many producers today would consider desirable - fragility.

With the high's and brittleness of Mic B; many new school producers today would say this mic would cut through then mix - better than Mic A. I disagree however, but that is my opinion.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For characters, documentaries, and talking from more of a distance or projecting more - I'll take A.

For lower key, close up reads, or some higher-projecting spots with the right voice, give me B.

They're both nice.

Is B an ADK (Odin/Thor?) or a sE Electronics mic? I've heard samples of sE on singers that sound terrific.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To my ears (and JBL 2328 monitors) Mic 'A' sounds like it could be Mic 'B' after a bit of judicious EQ. That said, My pick of the litter would be Mic 'A'... Smooth and creamy sounding; eager to hear which is which.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww man...you ruined it, George. I wanted to guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that Mic B has more timbre, I don't detect the brittleness compared to A. I have a hard time finding something wrong with either one. I listened on computer speakers and through my headphones.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voted before reading.

Chose Mic A for exactly the same reasons stated here.

The Mics were very close....BUT....I detected a slight brittleness or harshness to mic B,

A was smoother and more pleasant. For that reason, it got my vote.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason, what do you mean I "ruined it?" Did you watch Monday's EWABS all the way through?

Listen to the original sample if you still want to guess, annnnnd...

OK, if you want to know which mic is which, listen to this sample:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r7a5ybisv1dp41d/MXL1006vTLM103-test.wav

There's only one of cheaper mics on Ebay, so good luck!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I downloaded the file to look at the spectral view of them and there was a marker with the mic names before each sample. Ninja
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. MXL does make some smooth mics (2003a). I loved my V67...but it got to be noisy.

If they made a V67 with a self noise of around 7dBA, I'd snatch up a bucket full of them.

A TLM103 sounds brittle? Nah, how could that possibly be???
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have always been a lukewarm supporter of mxl. for me, quality control is the main issue. my 1st v69 sounded like there was a bee hive inside it. i sent it back - they sent another and it sounded great - i replaced the cheap-o tube with a NOS mullard and it sounded even better. you DO have to make sure to get an OLD tube though - the mullard name was sold to sovtek and they make some pretty crappy tubes.
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