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Microtech Gefell M930 / Grace 101??

 
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Jacob Ekstroem
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Microtech Gefell M930 / Grace 101?? Reply with quote

Here's the deal...I recently bought a Groove Tubes GT67 which I use with a Tube Tech preamp. However... as much as I love this setup, it constantly annoys me that I can't go into the booth, switch on the gear and record instantly; instead I have to wait 30-60 minutes for the tubes (8 in total) to warm up, or leave it running all day long. I also find that the sound of the equipment changes slightly over the day, so my recordings made in the morning sounds different from those I do in the afternoon. Sooo, I consider getting a new non-tube based setup, and was wondering if anyone have an opinion about this combo: an M930 through a Grace 101 (or the new M101).

I have no experience with the Grace, but I'm familiar with the M930. Would be interesting to know if anyone had tried the two together. Would also be interested in other ideas for a preamp to match the M930.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacob,

I'm a huge fan of the Millennia STT-1. It has both tube and solid state circuits and I can record instantly without firing it up an hour before the session. If you're interested, I did a review a while back. Just click HERE to read the review.

You can find the Millennia website here.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you have a tube-based preamp that doesn't have point-to-point circuitry, then just leave it run. You'll have to replace tubes more often, but you won't have to worry about the drastic sound changes that occur if you just let the preamp warm up 20 minutes before trying to use it.

If you ever get the chance to use a U47, you can really notice it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, thanks for your input.

The Millennia is indeed a nice box, but way to expenssive I'm afraid... I guess I could trade in the Tube Tech but I'm not going to right away, so the new pre would be kind of a "backup", therefor I don't wanna spend too much... after all, the M930 is not exactly cheap either.
Sorry I forgot to mention I was kinda on a budget.

And I really don't want to have the tube mic & pre running 24/7.

On another board someone mentioned the Great River ME-NV1.... also very nice, but a little more than I would spend. SPL maybe, anyone?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking at the Speck 5.0 again. I've tried it and liked it and wished I had bought it last year. It's about $750-$800 with a subtle switchable output transformer, 4.6k input impedance, 70 db gain, sweepable HPF, phase reversal and pad. It's half-rack size and is a dorky light grey. It's certainly a tick below GR and Hardy in some ways...but I think it's better than either in creating a clean 3-D sound and I like it much more than the Grace and other mid level preamps.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacob Ekstroem wrote:


And I really don't want to have the tube mic & pre running 24/7.


Just the preamp really. Sucks, but unless you're using some of the boutique products, a true tube preamp is going to do this.

I wouldn't get rid of that preamp though... it's a pretty solid performer.

FWIW, the Speck isn't bad for the $
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yoda117 wrote:
I wouldn't get rid of that preamp though... it's a pretty solid performer.


Exactly, and I would still rely on the tube setup for specific jobs, but I have several clients who like the idea of ultra-fast turnarounds, like within the hour, and in those cases it sucks having to wait for the equipment to warm up properly.

Lance, thanks for the info about the Speck. Didn't really knew about it so I checked, and it looks really interesting.... hmmmm! Smile
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