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Matilda Novak
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 Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: Need Booth & Mac Laptop |
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Hi,
I'm brand new to the board, and I'm in need of some gear.
Looking for a small, used but in fine shape recording booth....also a mac laptop.
Is there anyone out there, preferably in L.A. who is upgrading and looking to find a good home for their equipment?
"New" is really expensive for me right now....used would be swell!
Thanks,
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Matilda... Welcome to the VO-BB.
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Mike Sommer
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Check out Craigslist, there are a bunch of studios going under now here in L.A. they may not have a booth but you check it out.
What other gear are you looking for?
Are you a working pro are you just starting out?
May I add that you really don't need a booth unless you have a really noisy home, I prefer a room with a little action so the voice is able to bloom.
Once you get your gear you'll know if you really need a booth or not.
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Yoda117
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Gearslutz second hand forum... several for sale now.
ditto what Mike said. A booth is nice, but most prefabs completely suck the sound (and the life) out of a recording unless you're careful. A well treated room or closet is my preference when starting out. Change your methods from there.
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Mike Sommer
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Greg wrote: |
ditto what Mike said. A booth is nice, but most prefabs completely suck the sound (and the life) out of a recording unless you're careful. A well treated room or closet is my preference when starting out. Change your methods from there. |
I found a friend!
No need for using any kind of"sophisticated" (SERIOUSLY OVERPRICED and OVER-HYPED) acoustical devices or 'treatments'. Just filled the room with floor-to-ceiling shelves, junk, and variously-textured knick knacks, until there isn't any "chatter" or "ringing" after a sharp hand clap. Those pre-fab "Whisper Rooms" are suffocating, performance-killing deathtraps, if you ask me - and cost as much as damn Mercedes. I feel so sorry for VO guys who've been "railroaded" into spending a fortune on one of those dreary sweatboxes - with the 'mandatory' 416 and Digidesign "M-Box" to round out the typical budget-busting "Sucker's Home Studio Deal of the Century". Yeesh.
Since I was a kid I was enamored with the "Disney Classic Sound" of old. Everything had a bounce to it it was alive. That bounce came from the old Stage B on the Burbank lot. The room was large and rectangular, with high ceiling, concrete slab floor, and'quilted' fiberglass/cotton fabric batting covering the walls - just like any standard old Hollywood soundstage, but built specifically for sound recording (absent the lighting rigs, and everything else that goes with 35mm shooting facilities). When an actor worked in that, the voice was grabbed up whole by the RCA 10001B suspended about a yard up and forward from their mouth, 'developed' and 'bloomed' through the compressor/limiter - which would subsequently spring back open to catch the warm 'ricochet' from the entire room.
Just the thought of it brings tears to my eyes.
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Lance Blair
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Count me in for the Anti Dead-Booth League. I don't like a slap-happy rubbery sound but I like a smidgen of space. The muddy boxy sound is fatiguing.
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ricevoice
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike Sommer wrote: | | and'quilted' fiberglass/cotton fabric batting covering the walls - just like any standard old Hollywood soundstage, but built specifically for sound recording (absent the lighting rigs, and everything else that goes with 35mm shooting facilities). |
My wife is a quilter so I grabbed a couple of quilts from her stash, draped them over a couple of those tri-folding room divider thingies, and voila! The room still has a little color but I like it and it saved a ton of money that can go towards more fun toys, like a new mic pre. 
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Deirdre
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Or a PS3 and GTA IV.
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Mike Sommer
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| ricevoice wrote: | | My wife is a quilter so I grabbed a couple of quilts from her stash, draped them over a couple of those tri-folding room divider thingies, and voila! The room still has a little color but I like it and it saved a ton of money that can go towards more fun toys, like a new mic pre. |
That would be great if you could get away with that.
Those quilted walls were about a foot and a half thick. Uncle Walt had to contend with the Burbank Airport so they built a room inside a room. The fiber glass absorbed a lot of sound on stage, but the cotton was pulled tight so it kind of had a reflective quality to it also. Stage B is about 35 x40 with about a 25' ceiling.
You can achieve some of the same qualities with 703 ridged fiberglass. With some 703 and some fabric mounted on MDF or birch plywood you could make yourself a great portable baffle.
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Deirdre,
Clearly, you know your priorities! 
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Yoda117
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| Deirdre wrote: | | Or a PS3 and GTA IV. |
I was thinking about a new car for the collection, but you know my tastes...
FWIW: I'm not totally against the pre-fab booths. The Diamond series from vocalbooth.com are actually quite nice to use.
Clearsonic.com also makes some good portable baffles IMO/IME.
You've also got some new types of drywall from various vendor (Dupont is the one I always remember) that were made to act as acoustical treatment for the home theatre crowd.
Of course you can always rip out the floors, walls, etc., toss them on u-joints placed off-angle. A bit overkill, but I know some folks who did it to great effect. The ABC studio in NYC is my personal favorite, as they accidentally created a room perfect for VO due to contractor error (apparently the floor descends about 1-2 degrees to a point near the middle of the room; never been in the room so I can't confirm, but it's a heck of a story over some bourbon).
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georgethetech
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Need Booth & Mac Laptop |
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Outofhear.com is selling off one or two of their rental kits, including a Powerbook G4 12", Mbox Mini, 416 and other VO studio essentials.
Steve might be willing to part it out for you.
He also has an AudioTX Communicator USB dongle for sale.
Send him an email, snafshun@outofhear.com
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