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Bruce
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Absolutely, PJ. Having a home studio and Internet connection does not make someone a great talent or a great producer. The cream will rise to the top and make appropriate money.

Also to consider, as population and technology grow, there's an ever expanding amount of voiceover needed. The good and persistent will get their fair share.

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mcm
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The good and persistent will get their fair share.


Wise words indeed. I've been thinking about this a lot, today especially as I came to the end of one mother lode of contacts and started on a new pile of names and was feeling like Sisyphus rolling that eternal rock up that eternal hill. Then I got an email from someone who said they already have people they use but sometimes they just want a different voice. That's when the persistence idea kicked in again - if one can just hang in there until they need a new voice, eventually it will be good that I've contacted 10,000 people and eventually I'll have work all the time, not just a job or two or three a week (if I'm lucky).

And, uh, no, I haven't contacted 10,000 people yet. It only feels that way.
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Jim Barton
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: Voice123 "opportunity" Reply with quote
This just crossed my email and I thought you all might be amused by it. (Bold font is mine.)

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The Creative Services Department at (tv station) is looking for additional voice talent for our commercials. We are looking for a male and female voice. Looking for a young, hip, energetic voice. Also able to change up their voice for various commercials (commical, fast-paced). We mainly do :30 second spots and need a dry voice. We email the script and the voice over person emails their finished product back to us (mp3 or wav file). Non-union. We are looking for someone who can dry voice up to 15 commercials for $50 a month. The number of commercials voiced varies from month to month. We are a small size market so our fees must stay low in accordance with our budget.
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Don't stumble over yourselves answering this one,

Jim
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allensco
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Joined: 30 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah...that one crossed my email as well. It was promptly deleted.
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Drew
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ka Ching! Swoosh into my trash bin as well. Sheesh. Small market I understand. But that's ridiculous!
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PJHawke
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Joined: 30 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mai Gawd.

Being a newbie, I'll admit that I'd take those $20 spots at first to build up my demo library & confidence and get used to the biz. But that last one is ridiculous even from my perspective. I may not be a sizzling ball of burning confidence yet, but working for that insulting amount would get me totally depressed and down on myself. I do non-union masonry work; its hard filthy work but at least I can survive off it. I may hate tuckpointing, but there's too damned many people out there with chimneys in need of repair for me to waste my time pimping myself for pennies at something I know I'm good at.
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brianforrester
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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mcm
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Brian, I can only hope your prediction is correct.

I've gotten something out of my free listing at V123 - two long-lost friends, not looking for VO, found me because that website came up early in the Google list for my name.

My own website comes up on the next page, I guess, so if V123 hadn't been there, they would have found me anyway. There's no way anybody looking for VO would find me on V123, unless maybe I changed my last name to A0001McKitrick. :wink:
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Philip Banks
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Joined: 20 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Voice123 is a lovely website, a fantastic business and a gift to all voice overs the world over. The service it provides is second only to all the other ways of getting business like ....

Standing on your head in a bucket of snakes.
Going into the office of a voice over agency and holding your breath until they agree to sign you.
Holding all the senior managers of the Coca-Cola corporation hostage or better still someone from the organisation who would actually be missed.
Or try the US government approach. Find all the other voice over artists in the world and bomb them ....In the name of freedom and democracy of course!!!
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Spacegypsy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:31 am    Post subject: Ahem Philip Reply with quote
Erm, Banksey, I think us Brits also have a hand in that......
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Deirdre
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Stick a sock in the politics, you guys.
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Satire is not dead but es ist verboten!
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