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| robert jadah wrote: | | Don't you ideally want that room noise as big as minus as possible? |
Correct! my room noise is about -46. If you normalize your good stuff, you normalize that up as well. This is why normalization is a bad thing. But with compression, you can set a threshold above -46 to sweeten those sounds and crush anything under -46 for super-silent.
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Robert...the -6db talk is talking about our recording level in our software...when you record, the display of the signal being at -6 db....the -80 db is Michaels noise floor level....open mic recording of silence....his noise floor is -80.
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| Yoda117 wrote: | | JeffreyKafer wrote: | | Yes but if software is your only solution... |
I think you mean if it's your only option... sorry, just being nitpicky. |
Wow, that's not annoying or anything....
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Jeff and Tom:
Aha! So I was mixing apples and oranges.
(But don't get me started on mixing.)
I thought the floor thingamajiggy was what Amy was talking about right off the top.
I wobble corrected.
I will go away now.
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Robert,
We are using the same meters for that though. Think of it this way. When I'm not talking my booth the meters hover around -72 to -69 db. That's my noise floor. When I speak the meters jump up to around -6 db. Does that make sense?
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| JeffreyKafer wrote: | | Yoda117 wrote: | | JeffreyKafer wrote: | | Yes but if software is your only solution... |
I think you mean if it's your only option... sorry, just being nitpicky. |
Wow, that's not annoying or anything.... |
Hey, I admitted it going in 
Seriously though, if SW is your only option, Waves or Ozone ought to be the answer. I've yet to see a better SW package for dynamic processing.
Just a question for everyone though. Nobody is doing this unless they're producing stuff for the client, right?
Just making sure 
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| Hart wrote: | | When I'm not talking my booth the meters hover around -72 to -69 db. |
My what an impressive noise floor you have, Brian. I think I need to re-measure mine tonight.
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whew ... thank dog Brian said it ... i was at hair-jerking level reading through this thread.
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rainbows and sunshine.
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Not to constrain the hair-pulling that is going on in some parts of Illinois but....
is noise floor the same as ambient? If I check levels before recording, in a room not an iso-booth or an AmySnively special vox box, I'm at -66. And here I was worrying about the hail pummeling the roof earlier today. postponing a record session for, oh, five minutes. And the dog's snoring now...
and Jeff, rainbows and sunshine are really, really quiet 
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All right, you guys-- keep it civil in here.
Keep the sniping off the board.
Get that "nerds" post the hell out of this thread.
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Thank you, Jeff, for telling me that noise floor=ambient.
(We're super civil....which is much better than being supercilious, given.)
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| JeffreyKafer wrote: | | All of that assumes that they have hardware compression going in. I think you'll find many, if not most, have hardware setups far simpler than you. |
You've got a point there (although I don't track with a compressor in the direct chain, but do it afterwards), but there's one compressor that had an interface similar to what I see in Audition and for the life of me I can't remember which one it is.
I'm not taking away from the ITB (in the box) processing, but I went OTB (out of the box) because I felt the plug-ins were creating too many artifacts. For VO, this isn't much of an issue, but when we started recording more instruments it was really noticeable to me, so I started processing OTB.
Well, that... and I'm a gear junkie, so I needed an excuse.
All that said, I've really enjoyed playing with tools like Ozone. I'll probably get a license for myself sometime eventually.
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