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todd ellis A Zillion
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 10495 Location: little egypt
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:40 am Post subject: rate for singing |
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anybody ever sing in a VO job? looking for an idea on rate. it's not a jingle, per se, but a part of an industrial/educational project. 2 or 3 verses. i'm being very broad - but neither the client not i really know where we are on this one. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13016 Location: East Jesus, Maine
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:12 am Post subject: |
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What is the nature of the singing? Casual? to one’s self? Classical-sounding? rock-opera style? Singing a rhyme so you remember something? is is with accompaniment? will there be printable music?
The request is way too vague at the moment to make any guesses.
If everything is presented musically finished— a score with at least a scratch accompaniment I’d say anywhere between 1.5 to 2 times normal rate.
2x normal is what I do with “specials”.
There was an advertiser with WBZ who wanted a singing ad, just because they always wanted one. The radio production guys couldn't understand why I told them the client needed a full-service ad agency.
"Can't you just sing it?"
Pro Tip: any correspondence from a client that starts with "can't you just" means trouble.
Whitney Szabo may know the right questions to ask about this. _________________ DBCooperVO.com |
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Eddie Eagle M&M
Joined: 23 Apr 2008 Posts: 2393
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: |
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This type of work is primarily on programs designed to train, inform, promote products, or perform public relations functions. Category I programs are shown on a restricted (non-broadcast) basis. Category II programs are intended for unrestricted showing to the general public.
On-Camera Singers
Category I
Solo/duo (8-hour day): $504.50
Group Singers 3 or more (8-hour day): $304.50
Step-Out Solos (group singers who, in addition to group singing, perform 8 bars or less of solo singing): $381.50
Category II
Solo/duo (8-hour day): $628
Group Singers 3 or more (8-hour day): $375.50
Step-Out Solos (group singers who, in addition to group singing, perform 8 bars or less of solo singing): $471
Vocal Contractor (for On- or Off-Camera vocal groups of 3 or more) Group 3-8: (basic applicable rate + 50% additional)
Off-Camera (or Audio Only) Singers
Category I
Solo/duo (per hour): $271
Group Singers 3 or more (per hour): $181
Step-Out Solos (group singers who, in addition to group singing, perform 8 bars or less of solo singing): $225.50
Category II
Solo/duo (per hour): $304.50
Group Singers 3 or more (per hour): $204.50
Step-Out Solos (group singers who, in addition to group singing, perform 8 bars or less of solo singing): $256 |
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todd ellis A Zillion
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 10495 Location: little egypt
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:44 am Post subject: |
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thanks eddie - that helps a lot!
i don't know if it's one singer or an ensemble - so lots of variables to fill ---
there will be music provided, but i don't have it yet - it's kind of an intro to the character doing the narration. not sure on the style yet. maybe sort of "schoolhouse rock-ish"
it's not really a "can't you just ..." situation. more of a "how do we ..." kind of thing. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:54 am Post subject: |
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"How do we":
Hire a composer and/or arranger. Need references? _________________ DBCooperVO.com |
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todd ellis A Zillion
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:58 am Post subject: |
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it's a lot easier than they originally described - they have music - just need somebody to sing a few lines. i'll admit, i panicked a little. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11049 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Best session singer around www.rachelashley.co.uk plus hubby is a musician writer/composer/lap dancer |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:03 am Post subject: |
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They should have been more explicit. I'm sorry you wasted mental CPUs on a solved problem! _________________ DBCooperVO.com |
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