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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4931 Location: Location, Location!
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hahahahahahaha!
I just entered your basic 100,000 word audiobook and it gave me a great quote of $133,000. Basically, if I land an audiobook gig through voices.com, I really only need to do one per year to make solid living. Oh, and if the words are "hard", tack on another $30k!
Score! _________________ Jeff
http://JeffreyKafer.com
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Lance Blair M&M
Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2279 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, Voices. I'm going to score an Audiobook this year and buy myself an entire neighborhood in Detroit. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
and now, http://lanceblairvo.com the blog is there now too! |
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heyguido MMD
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 2507 Location: RDU, the Geek Capitol of the South
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Foog DC
Joined: 27 Oct 2013 Posts: 608 Location: Upper Canuckistan
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:11 am Post subject: |
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It ain't the Brit slang that has me all confuzzled. And it ain't the spelling (since we Canuckistanis spell all British and correct-like). It ain't even the Red Dwarf references in his sig (cause yay Red Dwarf!). It's the fact that they eat smoked fish. For breakfast. 'Tis downright disconcertin' to the innards to even contemplate such a thing! I wish it weren't true, but this is no red herring I tell you!
cheers,
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Lee Gordon A Zillion
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6855 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:58 am Post subject: |
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What, you've never had lox & bagels for breakfast? _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
Voice President of the United States
www.leegordonproductions.com
Twitter: @LeeGordonVoice
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Foog DC
Joined: 27 Oct 2013 Posts: 608 Location: Upper Canuckistan
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Lee Gordon wrote: | What, you've never had lox & bagels for breakfast? | Also a bit weird to mine eyes, or belly as it were. Though there used to be a great all-you-can eat kosher breakfast joint in Toronto where I did partake once or twice. But I was in my twenties and my judgement was clouded by... things. Don't get me wrong. I love seafood. Madly. Can't get enough of it. But I still can't wrap my head and taste buds around eating it for breakfast.
...sorry about that. If I keep up these diversions I'm going to have to start paying dues to the threadjackers union!
cheers,
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CarynClark MMD
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 2697 Location: Fort Myers, FL
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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10% SurePay fee missing - good note, Lee.
I actually like SurePay, b/c I have been screwed out of payment when I've not used it. However, it does bug me that the clients don't typically seem to realize that we have to account for that fee in our quote. They also don't seem to realize we pay a subscription fee to be there. Not that it matters to them, I guess. But I hate being dinged twice. 10% is an awful lot in camparison to other percentages one pays in life for PayPal, etc.
That said, I just re-upped on voices.com. It's definitely worthwhile, quirks and all. I've not been on voice123 for years, though. Just not sure I should go back down that road... _________________ Caryn Clark... The Hip Chick Voice!
"A positive mental attitude and having faith in your ability is quite different from being irresponsible and downright stupid." - Dave |
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Lee Gordon A Zillion
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6855 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, say what you will about SurePay, but the name does accurately reflect the benefit: you do the job and you are sure to get paid. I just completed my -- gasp -- 85th SurePay job. In each case, it was the client's idea, not mine. The one time a guy offered to use SurePay and I told him it wasn't necessary, he stiffed me. And I am currently owed about three grand by a couple of clients who started out with SurePay but then went "off the grid" for some subsequent jobs. I may ask Erik to drop the hammer on them, so I'll end up paying the 10% anyway.
But it would really be nice if Voices.com were a little more transparent about the fee. Ideally, there would be a check box asking the job poster if he or she were willing to pick up the cost of the SurePay fee. It would make them all aware that such a fee exists, and it would give us a better indication of which clients were less likely to try to nickel & dime us.
While we're at it, I wouldn't mind if the P2Ps also offered job posters the following options:
1. Slate
2. No Slate
3. What's a Slate? _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
Voice President of the United States
www.leegordonproductions.com
Twitter: @LeeGordonVoice
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ricevoice Cinquecento
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 532 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Lee Gordon wrote: | But it would really be nice if Voices.com were a little more transparent about the fee. Ideally, there would be a check box asking the job poster if he or she were willing to pick up the cost of the SurePay fee. It would make them all aware that such a fee exists, and it would give us a better indication of which clients were less likely to try to nickel & dime us. |
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THIS!!! I just explained this to a client yesterday... she's been using voices.com for years and had no idea they were double-dipping with the fees. _________________ Chris Rice - Noisemaker
www.ricevoice.com |
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Gregory Best The Gates of Troy
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1853 Location: San Diego area (east of Connie and south and east of Bailey)
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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did they take the price quote generator down? It doesn't work from my laptop. I wanted to play too. wawawaaaa _________________ Gregory Best
greg@gregorybest.com |
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Bish 3.5 kHz
Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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It seems like the generator has been taken down. Shame. It's so much fun when someone actually gives you the stick to beat them with.
As for the escrow notifications. They are never going away, and Voices are never going to make it any more transparent. I understand the arguments both for and against... it's the compulsory nature of it that is irksome. What I do, is always write my quote in the text of my reply, with a clear indication that this is subject to a Voices.com escrow fee. Something like:
My bid for this job is $500. This is subject to an additional 10% escrow fee applied by Voices.com for their SurePay service.
It may not be perfect, but it's the best I can do and makes me feel better about the whole SurePay debacle. _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
Smoke me a kipper... I'll be back for breakfast.
I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls. |
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bransom DC
Joined: 06 Nov 2008 Posts: 650 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Bish, I like that method of calling out the SurePay fee in the quote. The clients have no idea that we're eating that each time. I'm gonna start doing that.
On a side note, it really does make sense for Voices to work to push rates up, whether it's with a simplistic calculator or something more realistic, since 10% of a higher rate = a lot more profit for them, too. _________________ Bob Ransom
"I really need a pithy quote here." |
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SoundsGreat-Elaine Singer King's Row
Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 1055 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:27 am Post subject: |
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I always included SurePay in my quote. Something like, the fee for this is 350, with SurePay that is 385. _________________ Elaine
The Youthful Mature Voice (Emeritus)
Senectitude is not for the faint of heart. |
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MooreVoices Contributor II
Joined: 23 Sep 2012 Posts: 59 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote: | If Voices really wanted to help everyone they would have this blank for producers to fill in on every job:
Where will this play?:_________________
Answers could be things like Cable TV in "greater Poughkeepsie", Radio in "lesser Antilles", the Web, internal use only, network TV.
THAT would help talents make more realistic bids too.
B |
...this, through and through!
Jeffrey Kafer wrote: | Hahahahahahaha!
I just entered your basic 100,000 word audiobook and it gave me a great quote of $133,000. Basically, if I land an audiobook gig through voices.com, I really only need to do one per year to make solid living. Oh, and if the words are "hard", tack on another $30k!
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I...can't......breathe, LOL! _________________ Freedom is not knowing your limits but realizing that you have none. |
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