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imaginator The Thirteenth Floor

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 1348 Location: raleigh, nc
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:07 pm Post subject: SHOULD I WORK WITHOUT A DOT-NET? |
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Chris Mezzolesta's thread on websites and domain names got me wondering.
I was going to let my hold on voices2go.net expire at the end of this year. Back when I claimed it and directed it to my voices2go.com, the conventional wisdom was to buy several versions of one's chosen title (alas, i wasn't smart enough to think of buying voicestogo.com at the same time. Someone else has that now and isn't even using it).
What thinkest thou? Should i spend the bucks and keep the net? ...or let it go as an unecessary duplication of expenses?
Your opinions are valued.
Thank you. _________________ rowell gormon
www.voices2go.com
"Mr. Warm & Friendly Voice...with Character!"
Rowell Gormon's Clogged Blog - http://voices2go.com/blog
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agettig Contributor IV

Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 111 Location: Portage, MI
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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For $10 a year, it's cheap insurance for your website and brand. Just my $.02. |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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I don't buy .nets any more— I think they're a waste of money.
They're the weak little tag-along brother of the internet.
Nobody thinks "dot net" when looking for a website. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper

Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4931 Location: Location, Location!
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Also, you get zero SEO value from redirecting a site to your main page. Gogle doesn't even index sites with duplicate content. So if you want any search engine value from your dot net, you'll need an actual site there. _________________ Jeff
http://JeffreyKafer.com
Voice-overload Web comic: http://voice-overload.com |
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7978 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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If you're going to pay for another domain name, how about rowellgorman dot com? It's available.
Sadly, rogovo.com is taken.
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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heyguido MMD

Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 2507 Location: RDU, the Geek Capitol of the South
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Bruce is right..... If rowellgorman.com is available, jump on it. Today. While your existing site is known to your clients, owning your name in lights is worth the investment, and should eventually replace voices2go as your primary. You are the product, and having your name as the address is worth its weight in gold.
I'd still hold onto the v2go.com, as it's KNOWN. The .net you can ditch. If you eventually transition to rg.com, you can probably find a buyer for v2go without much trouble. Hell, I'd buy it on speculation, alone.... _________________ Don Brookshire
"Wait.... They wanna PAY me for this?" |
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DougVox The Gates of Troy

Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 1706 Location: Miami
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: |
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agettig wrote: | ...it's cheap insurance for your website and brand. |
You know I'm all about protecting one's brand, but what, exactly, would you be insuring yourself against?
I mean, if someone was really interested in dumping a bunch of money into voices2go.net, and turning it
into a top-of-mind brand, they'd be just as likely to do the same with the .tv version, the .cc version, etc.
So unless you're willing to buy every possible TLD version of voices2go.XXX, it ain't gonna work.
Besides, if someone wanted the .com that badly, they'd just pay you for it, or go buy VoicesToGo.com from
whoever owns that one.
And here's a big +1 for what Bruce said about RowellGormon.com. _________________ Doug Turkel (tur-KELL)
Voiceover UNnouncer®
UNnouncer.com |
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imaginator The Thirteenth Floor

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 1348 Location: raleigh, nc
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:32 am Post subject: |
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...am truly grateful for all the good and thoughtful advice.
bruce's post, though, points out exactly why i never went with my-name-dot-anything to begin with....nobody knows how to spell it. and it's multiplied. bruce is a very good friend, but he spelled my name wrong.
most people reasonably assume the last name is g-o-r-m-a-n. indeed, my daughter learned on her trip to ireland that it really is the correct spelling of the family name. i'm still not sure where the variation came into being in the US.
so if i have rowellgormon.com, and nobody knows how to spell gormon? i get it...buy both "mon" and "man" and link them. but then what to do about the blank stare i get when i tell them my first name is "rowell" (which is actually someone else's last name.....dad figured he was doing both of us a favor, i guess). i mean, when i'm introducing myself, i rarely even rate a "who?" with my first name. it's usually more of a "what?"
i'd go broke buying up all the variations of both names in domain-land.
that's why i originally used a blanket title of "imaginator" back in the 70s. but that turned out to be a corporate name, and also the name of a rock band, and a software product line, and i don't know what the guy using it as a domain name now is all about.
now granted, once they know the name "rowell", it's usually remembered and remembered with a positive spin. but i still get typographical and spoken variations of it all the time, even from long-time friends and clients. "role", "rolls (as in "royce"), "raul", "roland", "rOWl" (accent on the OW, which sounds painful), " and many more. my policy has been to correct people once or twice and then give up and smile. i know they're not doing it to mock.
doug actually got it right in his post, but then he already knows me (and is a genius at noticing detail). with bruce's misspelling, i take it in stride. even my credit union and the IRS found ways to improve the spelling, and i let it ride (as long as the checks go through).
wow....this inquiry took a whole new turn, but it's something i've pondered myself, and i will take genuine interest in any further opinions.
thank you to those who've taken the time.
rg _________________ rowell gormon
www.voices2go.com
"Mr. Warm & Friendly Voice...with Character!"
Rowell Gormon's Clogged Blog - http://voices2go.com/blog |
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DougVox The Gates of Troy

Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 1706 Location: Miami
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Rowell,
It might help to consider how you expect people to be finding you and your web site in the first place.
If it's through searching for your name on Google, you'll be relieved to know that once I typed "rowell g," your full name popped up as one of the auto-complete options. So whether one thinks it's Gormon or Gorman, they'll find you.
The beauty of using your real name is in its uniqueness. Nobody's gonna get you confused with another voiceover artist. However, if someone goes to VoicesToGo.com, (an easy mistake to make) they might think that you've closed up shop and give up their search for you.
But that brings us back to how you expect people to find you in the first place. If they're clicking on a link in an email that you've sent them, or reading it off of a postcard that they've received, or some other piece of proactive marketing you've done, it (almost) doesn't matter what your domain name is, 'cause they'll have it right in front of them. The same applies to those people who aren't searching for you, (by name), but rather for someone who does what you do. And if a link to your site comes up in the organic search results of someone looking for "character voices," or something similar, they'll have a link right there, and again, the exact spelling of your URL is inconsequential.
I've got similar problems with "Turkel," which is why I focus my marketing efforts on UNnouncer.com. People seem to find it more memorable than my full name. Though honestly, very few people find me by searching for my name or for the made-up word "UNnouncer." Most of my traffic is thanks to long-tail keywords, and other text on my site that relates to what I do, rather than who I am. _________________ Doug Turkel (tur-KELL)
Voiceover UNnouncer®
UNnouncer.com |
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7978 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, to some degree you could get by with a URL of something like: BeBoppALulaRowellsMyBaby.com. The reason being almost nobody types in your actual URL these days. They usually click on a link to get to you, a link that can say anything but yield your addy when clicked. Browsers that already have your site bookmarked also give both the title of your page as well as the URL as you start to type.
Yes, something more normal is better, but still almost anything goes.
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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SkinnyJohnny Backstage Pass

Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 462 Location: Asheville, NC
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I couldn't see your site just now, Rowell, but I'm looking forward to it!
I'm going through a mid-life crisis with my online presence! I hate using lanceblair.net I don't really want to brand myself too much with my name anymore because the other Lance Blair is an amazing person who does outstanding charity work (search for him, give him some traffic!). I want to brand myself through my work and what people are looking for. So, while I get a fair amount of biz through searches, I know it could be better. I come up first-page for the keywords I'm targeting, but I think I need to shift my targets!
Also, blogging seems to be working well for my online presence, and that experience has made me re-consider what I'm all about and what I should be doing. Like I said in another thread somewhere it's a process of elimination - learning what's not a good fit, and settling down into doing what you do best. That's a good formula for being very happy with one's work too, no?
So yeah, I've got three sites I need to build/rebuild with all new (and unique content) Fun, fun, fun! A general site, a corporate/e-learning site, and my UK site (which was a failure on the first launch because I had some duplicate content...duh!)
I like the idea of having a zany URL. Hey clients, check me out at 47zebracrossingvoiceovers.com !!!  _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
and now, http://lanceblairvo.com the blog is there now too! |
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