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tokyofan · Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: re:

I really like Amadeus Pro for basic recording/editing (OSX, 10.4 +). Fast and light. http://www.hairersoft.com/AmadeusPro/AmadeusPro.html

And still use Pro Tools LE for mixes....but, yes, plenty of headaches over the years.
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bobbinbeamo · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject:

Well I had to be out of town for a week and played around with Audacity and just started looking at AA3.

Not even the tech gurus at Avid/Digi can get this thing running. I tried to do that stuff too with the IDE cotrollers, Captain, to no avail. Mbox 1 is looking like I'm gonna have to let it go.

I'll check out Reaper too. I just need something that'll work without too much of a learning curve, as I am always busy recording, and have no time for down time.
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captain54 · Lucky 700 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago

I feel your pain. There's nothing worse than audio-techno hell.

Too bad about your Mbox 1. I've had mine for a long time and it has served me very well, all the way back to ProTools 6.0. To my ears, the Focusrite preamps in the original Mbox rival some of the more expensive units I've had.

Of course, I would never dream of trying to get this thing to work with Win 7, so I give you a lot of credit for trying. ProTools is notoriously slow for getting their systems up to speed with the latest OS's. Up until last year I knew of a guy who had Protools 5.0 running on OS 9...outdated, but rock solid stable.

I don't think I could do without some of the stock PT plugins, the Massey Limiter, and the outstanding audio editing of PT. Sound Forge is still my go to prog for down and dirty VO a Hobo Tounge

s on the PC, but for production on the Mac, its ProTools and Logic, baby. Everything gets edited in PT then dumped into Logic for final mixing and mastering.

If you are truly breaking up with PT, you've got a miriad of software choices, and its really hard to recommend because everyone works differently. I will say that as far as getting up and running quickly and easily with a minimum of headaches, Reaper is the way to go. However, Reaper doesn't touch PT as far as the sophistication of audio editing for VO. The auto-cross fade is nice, though.

bobbinbeamo · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject:

Hey Captain, I had this new machine come loaded with XP expressly to avoid known Win7 compatibility issues.

Just laughable now is the fact I've had online techs from Digi AND Dell go into my machine and check off certain functions and optimize Windows registry for this and that...this brand new thing is so JACKED that I am now contemplating just wiping the hard drive and reloading the OS. Nobody can tell me why I can load ProTools successfully, get a perfect mic signal but cannot record to play without the 2 errors that boiunce me from one error to the other!!!

I have an XP and Win 7 disk. First I'm going to look at what's out there for audio recording software and look for compatibility issues with Win7. It' appears there are several problems with many products, including Audition and Audacity.
My head hurts. Feel like I need an engineering or IT degree.
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captain54 · Lucky 700 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago

I'm not a tech, but I would say the problem is not with your PT software. It's with your original Mbox. What the Digi techs can't and won't tell you is that Digi hates it when people keep using the old hardware. I almost think they purposely somehow sabotage the older stuff. As much as I dig my Mbox 1, I'm currently shopping for an Mbox 2, because Digi is in the process of phasing out all support for the original Mbox. As of now, I can't upgrade PT LE 8 with the original Mbox.

I can suggest doing a firmware update for your Mbox (available on the Digi site) but I trust you've already been that route

Now, why it won't run on XP in Win 7 is a mystery. I've used my Mbox 1 with Sound Forge, Audition, Audacity and versions of PT LE from 6.0 - 8.0.1 on XP with very very few issues, unless they were of my own doing.

georgethetech · Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:49 am Post subject:

Oh man...
Is it a chip set conflict with the Mbox? Did they check that? Find out from Dell exactly what chip set is running in your machine and tell the Digi tech, or look it up on their compatibility list. You might also try a PCI USB card and see if the on-board USB bus is to blame.
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bobbinbeamo · Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:00 am Post subject:

Well, the 17 day new machine was so screwed up with registry & bios changes, device manager disabling, etc. I even downloaded the removal tool from Norton Antivirus, and still couldn't get ProTools to record/play, even after uninstalling and reinstalling ProTools, and upgrading to 7.1CS10, I was figuring I'd send the computer back, take an axe to the MBOX and move on. Then thought (in the middle of the night), why not reformat the bugger and start from scratch, which I did. I didn't have anything to lose.

Slowly but surely I methodically(with the help of the Dell tech) got the clean machine and reinstalled XP OS and all the drivers, and instead of reloading Norton Antivirus (which I earlier saw shared a .dll file with ProTools). The tech mentioned I might want to try the free Microsoft Security Essentials, so I did that first.
Then I configured Windows prior to reinstallling ProTools, (according to my manual) installed ProTools, then plugged in the MBOX, rebooted, launched Protools, created a new session, hit record AND IT WORKED!!!!!!
A huge stress has been removed. Now on with it, like trying to figure out how to get my MBOX to work with other audio processing software...that would be cool. But I am eternally grateful to my friends here who responded with helpful advice and those like Kara and Amy who've been there and shared my pain. A Huge comfort, indeed and am grateful for all of you and this place.
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bobsouer · Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:26 am Post subject:

Bobbin,

I'm so glad to see that you were finally able to get things working. I switched to the Microsoft Security Essentials several weeks ago and have been very happy with it.
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captain54 · Lucky 700 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago

bobbinbeamo · Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:28 am Post subject:

I turned "Automatic Updates" off, and update when PT is not in use.
One MUST have protection when on the internet, and I'm not dedicating this new expensive machine solely to audio processing. On my old laptop, PT and Norton 360 peacefully coexist, so I know it is possible. But I believe my biggest problem was loading Norton Antivirus 2010 on to the new machine. Once that was on, NOTHING could be done to get ProTools to work.

Of course I just got ProTools functional over the weekend, after reformatting and starting from scratch. I'll have to see how it responds when I'm deep into production.

BTW, how does one get the MBOX to operate with other audio processing software in addition to ProTools? That's something I'd love to know about.
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bobsouer · Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:20 am Post subject:

Bobbin,

With the MBox1 that I used to use with my office computer when I worked at BGEA, I believe when I installed ProTools there was an option in the setup to install the ASIO and WAV drivers. I did that and then was able to use one or the other of those drivers in other software like Sound Forge, Audacity, etc. Do you remember if you installed those drivers while re-installing everything?
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bobbinbeamo · Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:02 am Post subject:

Hi Bob,
My mind was so hell-bent on going by the manual upon reinstallation, I don't recall, but don't think so. I reviewed the manual about this, just now so I thank you. I might need to learn more about the ASIO driver in the appendix and/or download the Digidesign wave driver. For the time being, since things seem to be working OK, I'm not about to go try anything else. I realize my need more than ever to have a fall-back software when this MBOX no longer decides to work anymore. Which means I'll be looking to make some changes as things evolve. And evolve they must.
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captain54 · Lucky 700 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago

The Digi Asio driver normally installs by default...if you don't feel like going back and reinstalling the entire suite, you can always try to install the standalone driver

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