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Deirdre
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach real newbies in Boston.


The first thing I go over is reading aloud.
Most people never do it, so they don't know how.

You can't teach confidence, but you CAN give people an opportunity to earn some under your tutelage. I teach tips, a few tricks, and give people what Banksey calls a "First" experience. In this case-- for most of my students it's the first time on mic with a set of earphones on.

I think there's a great deal of value to the notion of "Firsts". The ADR class I'll be attending this summer is an investment in my future because it's a chance to have a full-blown experience--> with help. The next time the issue arises, I will have done it.
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BenWils
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with DB. Some voice classes are real and they make it out to be "real" and kudos to them.....info on the business, agents etc.....some people, however, have no business teaching 'cause they just wanna take someone's money and run. So, do your homework first.

The key, in my opinion, is stated previously in this thread by Banksey.....do your due dilligence and find out what you are paying for and what is being taught.....if you can market yourself to the people teaching you down the line?....is the price too much for the amount of time you spend being taught?

Just my thoughts again.
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Diane Maggipinto
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like in yoga, just because you can do it doesn't mean you can teach it.
I'm naturally leery of many VO classes and workshops, but in recent days (truly) I've found in my research promising offerings from "proven" instructors...so we'll see how that pans out if/when I hop to it. A couple of years back, I did a one day intensive, one-on-one with a VO veteran, then joined her workshop that evening (for about 8 folks who had signed up for a series) in the studio for chops sharpening. Tres fun! and I'd do it again and recommend her...but also appreciate diversity and different teaching styles.
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Classes keep me energized too, and I learn from the coaching given to me and to others in the class. Edge has some inexpensive teleclasses, if you don't live in NYC. But in a certain sense I agree w/Banksey, you can learn technique out the wazoo and some of it is helpful, but when the time in front of the mic comes and you're on, what takes over is instinct and experience.

Anthony, sounds to me like you've read Dyer's "The Power of Intention"? Awesome book, changed my life. His new book on inspiration is good also.
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TC
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the "firsts" classes are a great idea. I'd take all of them.

From my perspective as a new VO talent (four auditions, no work yet), the one-day classes I'd sign up for would be:

1. Auditioning: A VO pro gives instruction on how to make strong choices at an audition, using something like Shurtleff's 12 Guideposts or some other approach to cold reading that prepares the actor to zero in on one or two strong reads and do them confidently.

2. The Business: How to run your VO business. And not just constant reminders about marketing (though that should be a major part of it). This might require an accountant as a co-instructor. Show students all of the details of running a VO business, how those details are different for union and non-union talent, what records to keep, what the tax implications are, what sort of retirement accounts are best for people who work in this type of business, etc. Real, boring, down-and-dirty details of running your own business.

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anthonyVO
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kitstern wrote:

Anthony, sounds to me like you've read Dyer's "The Power of Intention"? Awesome book, changed my life. His new book on inspiration is good also.


Yup - I just saw him at the Javits center in NYC last week.

-Anthony
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banksey wrote:
5 Give yourself a time limit, a target and set a stop loss. The latter ensures that you don't spend your last dollar chasing an elusive dream.

What about the idea that you can only fail if you quit?

Never give up. And never, under any circumstances, face the facts.
-- Ruth Gordon

"People of mediocre ability sometimes achieve outstanding success because they don't know when to quit. Most men succeed because they are determined to." -
-- George Herbert Allen

"What this power is, I cannot say. All I know is that it exists...and it becomes available only when you are in that state of mind in which you know EXACTLY what you want...and are fully determined not to quit until you get it."
-- Alexander Graham Bell
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