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vox1
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:04 am    Post subject: How would YOU respond?? Reply with quote

Here's an email I got from a pretty regular video-post client:
I'd submitted an audition read, and apparently he pitched me along
with several other samples to his client for a series of narrations:

>Unfortunately they picked a different voice out of town, but I want to do a scratch
track and want it to be good.(they said they felt your sample read was too boomy) They are struggling with the script and I think getting a scratch track
together will give them some direction. I attached the entire script. Let me know what you need to charge me and when you can get to it. <

My initial reactions. A) Let the guy who got the gig do a scratch trak.
cool Hey, charge him what I'd charge to do the actual narration
C) Don't be petty, he's offering to pay for a Scratch Track... umm..
okay - but how is it going to fit the same pacing and cadence of
whomever they are going to use (and should I care).

Any thoughts?

Mike Markey
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been 2nd choice on a couple of projects that have come back to land in my lap because the client was unhappy with the final product of their "first" choice.

Do the scratch track.
Be brilliant.
Charge for your time the same as you would for any project.

If there's a usage issue, talk it over with the producer, make arrangements in advance. Just in case it comes back and lands in your lap.
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a corporate there is no difference between a scratch track and the end product. Usual session fee applies.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phillip, just for my own clarification, is "corporate" the same as what we would call an "industrial" on this side of the pond?

"Two nations divided by a common language"
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vox1
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Thanks for the thoughts Reply with quote

Thanks for the thoughts. I agree it shouldn't be discounted. I'm
not going to spend any less time on it as i would doing the read
for final post. That being the case, I told him i'd do it for the 'first-hour' session rate and he agreed... Cool with me; as i told
him, maybe you'll like the 'scratch track' better than whomever you
chose. Hard to say since they gave no direction for the read in the first place.

Regards,

MikeE
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apologies to Jeff et al. Corporate and industrial are one and the same. A promotional video/dvd for a business. These tend to be charged at a flat rate as there are no useage issues, the production in itself having no measureable commercial value (doesn't sell for $19.99).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh! Certainly no apologies necessary! I was just confirming what I thought was probably the case. I think I may have heard them referred to as corporate VO's over here, also. Industrial is just the more common term that I'm used to, that's all. I wanted to make sure I understood you correctly. Thanks! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a member, but I often use them as a guideline: under the AFTRA schedule there is a Demo or Test Copy rate for commercials that won't air. It's $162 and change versus the normal city rate of $235 and change. But I don't see a discounted rate for industrial reads.

http://www.aftra.com/contract/crates2.htm

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anthonyVO
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:
I'm not a member, but I often use them as a guideline: under the AFTRA schedule there is a Demo or Test Copy rate for commercials that won't air. It's $162 and change versus the normal city rate of $235 and change. But I don't see a discounted rate for industrial reads.

http://www.aftra.com/contract/crates2.htm

Bruce


If you're non-union, you should always charge the full session fee. If they use your "Demo" or "Test Copy" as a N.U., you have no protection nor backing to collect as a N.U. v-o.

I'd do what Deirdre suggested. I've been second choice a couple of times as well, but ended up with the gig.

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