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My First Attempt at a Home VO Setup
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todd ellis
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi george - yes - denim in the cloud as well. i was going to use the OC insulation - and found the recycled denim by accident.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow all great ideas. Love the simplicity of your setup Bish.

Todd: So I understand, the panels are really frames (like picture frames) with recycled denim stuffed in the centers, then covered with sheet material. Is that correct? Where would I find recycled denim?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google search for Recycled Denim Insulation and it will likely give you links to local hardware stores with it in stock. Or to order online from. It's a bit pricier than conventional insulation based on what I found but also much more environmentally friendly on several fronts.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is what i used.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/UltraTouch-R-13-Recycled-Denim-Batt-Insulation-with-Sound-Barrier-15-in-W-x-93-in-L/3731875

yeah - like a frame - makes the batt 3"-ish thick. m y window plug is substantially thicker - 11" with a 3" overlap (it's a garden level window)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried making my own shredded denim. I had to buy my wife a new food processor.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 4'x2' frames were made with 4"x1" planks (bought in 8' lengths). So... the frame is 4" deep. I used triangular off-cuts to brace the corners internally (and an internal cross-piece), which effectively made a "stop" for the front-loaded OC703 at about 2"... and consequently, a 2" air-gap behind it. This is (theoretically at least) better than just an insulation panel on it own.

Oh... and the insulation I used in the booth area was recycled denim as I'd used up my dozen OC703 panels in the main room. No real reason other than it came on a roll and was more suited to stuffing into the wall framework.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The air gap is actually very important if there is space to support it. When the signal partially passes through an insulation panel, bounces off the wall behind it, and re-enters the insulation panel, you get double the effect vs mounting it directly to the wall. </nerd>

There are volumes of detail from the likes of John Sayers and Rod Gervais if you ever want to go down the rabbit hole of studio design.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the air gap just as effective if it is between the panel & the wall?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're looking for aesthetics as well as function, ATS Acoustics also offers custom panels with whatever image you like printed on the canvas. I haven't gone that route yet, but their standard panels and bass traps are excellent (and pretty reasonably priced).
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you everyone. I truly appreciate your inputs and I'm incorporating them.

As I'm looking around the room it looks like it'll come down to a complete re-do with regards to sound deadening. Chris, I like the idea and convenience of pre-made panels but I think maybe I should be budget conscious at first. I'll take a gander at their website though. Thanks!

Who knew VO would include using my miter saw and a trip to Lowes!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have to buy significantly more insulation than you need to make your own panels, you may find that buying ATS panels could be less costly. Even having them make me three custom sized panels for my booth cost me less than I would have paid for enough OC703 to do it myself.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

todd ellis wrote:
is the air gap just as effective if it is between the panel & the wall?

When panels get put up on walls, they're usually flush or very very close. It's effective if there is enough of it, but the effectiveness can be increased if there is space between the panel and the wall because it'll catch the signal on both passes - through the first time, and again when it bounces.

The thicker the gap + thicker insulation, better low frequency absorption. 4" insulation 4" away from the wall will tackle frequencies in the 400hz range better than 2" insulation 2" away from the wall, for example which tackles "mud".

This image illustrates the concept behind it and it's at the core of most recording studio construction.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks george. i think i did ok ... completely by accident.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some tips.
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