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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A FEW GOOD MEN .....

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Lizden
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Hey, Hey....On-hold is perfectly respectable work! Laugh
#PaysMyBills Money Mouth Kiss

But, I will say it again: Philip's advice is fabby!
(But he's right, you can't shut him up!) Kiss
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lizden wrote:
Hey, Hey, Hey....On-hold is perfectly respectable work! Laugh
#PaysMyBills Money Mouth Kiss



Anyone new to our business or who has been around for a while needs to commit the above to memory. Wanna be famous? Become a Rock Star or a Movie Actor. Wannabe really rich? Become a Tax Lawyer.

Every trained Nurse makes a living as a Nurse. The majority of "Trained" voiceovers" are looking for more training because when they ....
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Moe Egan
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Preach it Liz!

When the 'rona hit, and most of my regular clients went radio silent. But, I had an up tick in my telephony jobs. Sure, I was doing nothing but Covid info updates for months which was scary and depressing as all hell, but it was the only thing that kept the lights on here.

I've shared with Liz over the years, I have three goal posts financially each week (I keep things weekly because I have such a wee lil attention span).
They are:
1. Where I aspire to be
2. The weekly goal I've set for myself at the beginning of the year
3. Well, at least it's better than radio money (anyone outside of LA or NYC who tells you they make bank in radio is a lying lier)

Through the pandemic, most weeks were 'better than radio' even if only slightly, some were not as good. However, I've kept my chin(s) up by reminding myself that I'm making a living as a 'creative' and a 'full time freelancer' during a world wide pandemic- something a LOT of creatives could not say.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What my BFF Moe said. Kiss Laugh Kiss
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This particular jag in this long and winding threadjack puts to mind the marvelous phrase about working VO full time that I have bold faced stolen from our beloved Boardmeister, Bruce Miles and have held close for many, many years. This one sentence has seen me through the lean days and weeks.

You either learn to ride the waves, or you watch from the beach.

Genius. And true. Some days ARE hard. Some seasons are hard. When your equipment goes farkakte before a directed session with a new client (like happened yesterday), when you never really know what next week is going to look like financially, when there's a new bit of technology and you don't have an IT department to 'splain it to you. It is scary. But to me, what's scarier is being stuck in a cube farm, reporting to a middle manager. Explode
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Masterclass

Contact me for YOUR own free Skype session - voiceoverist

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Bish
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moe Egan wrote:
But to me, what's scarier is being stuck in a cube farm, reporting to a middle manager.
Ahhh... middle managers... the bane of everyones's life!

Most middle managers have been promoted out of cubeland, and have absolutely no idea what "managing" entails. They see themselves as being rewarded... they're no longer sitting behind an oar, pulling to the rhythm of a beaten drum. They are now the person beating the drum. They have no idea how to deal with any real "management" issues... and they immediately kick them up to senior management who, if they ever try to kick it higher, will be told, "I'm a director... I direct. You're a senior manager... you manage in a senior way." Managing middle-managers is a thankless task... they are usually thrashing around outside of their abilities... but quite petulant in defending themselves.

So... middle management are actually a pain in the backside for both ends of the hierarchy. It's even worse if they've got a mail-order MBA Smile

Yes... I spent far too long in a corporate environment. It's soul-destroying at every level. Give me self-employment any day!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radio Four!!!
Bloody kids... I remember that dark day in 1967 when the BBC rebranded the stations. The "Light Program" became Radios 1 & 2 (pop and light entertainment respectively), the venerable "Third Program" became Radio 3, and the "Home Service" became Radio 4. Some elderly relatives were rendered catatonic by the change and viewed the BBC as being infiltrated by left-wing, Carnaby Street hippies (actually, not a million miles from the truth). The floral ties and flared trousers did not sit well with a generation who were still trying to tune the wireless to find out what was happening to our boys at the front.
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This ought to be THE LAW!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, the voice of reason shouting upstream. 'Bout time someone said this. Thank you, Mr. Banks.

Seems so many jumping into this business of late don't know the difference between an avocation and a vocation.
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top Tip - Two things a voiceover MUST do to nail any live directed session. Ready for the major league ? https://vimeo.com/647737453
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Lizden
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SO glad I watched this before my SC session this morning.
#TheMoreYouKnow cool
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the real advantages to being in the #voiceover business for any #voicetalent #voiceactor is the ready supply of usable knowledge that moves with the market dynamic. https://vimeo.com/648286441


Matthew Bourne's "The Midnight Bell" BTW


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Answer: Be you, as there is only one of those.
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