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Moosevoice Backstage Pass
Joined: 16 Nov 2012 Posts: 414 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:35 am Post subject: Editing out breaths |
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Do you edit out your breaths before submitting your auditions?
I'm not talking about frequent big nasal inhalations like a certain someone but just regular breaths. _________________ www.moosevoice.com |
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Bob Bergen CM
Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 965
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Never. Take out the breaths and you take out the humanity. It makes the read sterile. This is something I always ask industry guests in my workshop so my students can har from them and not just me. I have never had an agent or casting director advise to take out the breaths. In fact, often it is in a breath where I emote. |
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Moosevoice Backstage Pass
Joined: 16 Nov 2012 Posts: 414 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Thank you, Mr. Flight Attendant. _________________ www.moosevoice.com |
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: In the souls of a million jeans
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:22 am Post subject: |
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That is good advice. I used to always leave them in, but then I had a couple clients ask for me to remove them and I think I took that as a cue that people don't want them and started removing them from everything without thinking. Thanks for the insight Bob! |
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Bruce Boardmeister
Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7963 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 am Post subject: |
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First I try to breathe “right” by avoiding big breaths, which has taken years of self training, and then if a breath is too big I might soften it through cross fading or volume control. Agreed that breathless is sterile.
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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Lee Gordon A Zillion
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6854 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Bob is absolutely right about taking out the humanity, so even if I remove a particularly loud breath, I generally replace it with an equivalent length of room tone or just lower its volume. It's not the inhaling and exhaling that creates the humanity, it's the space. So, for normal breathing, I leave it in, except if a sentence is so long I had to take a breath in a place that there shouldn't be a pause. In those cases, I edit them out. _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
Voice President of the United States
www.leegordonproductions.com
Twitter: @LeeGordonVoice
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George Been Here Awhile
Joined: 09 Dec 2019 Posts: 283 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I find that personally it depends on the target. I leave breathing sounds in for acting roles that are character based because that sounds more natural, whereas in the context of something like medical narration I usually gate those out because the clients I work with frequently want a more dry/sterile experience with as few distractions as possible.
Your mileage will likely vary. |
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Dan-O The Gates of Troy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1638
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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If you want the answer to your question, simply listen to examples of the final product.
For me, I almost always remove breaths.
In narration, which is 95% of my work (docs, in-show, promo, trailer), breaths are removed in the final mix. It makes it easier for the producer to simply drop my file into the mix without having to edit it. Call it customer service.
In the other 5% when I'm auditioning for games or commercials, breaths stay in. |
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todd ellis A Zillion
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 10511 Location: little egypt
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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what george said. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
who's/on/1st?
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Frank F Fat, Old, and Sassy
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 4421 Location: Park City, Utah
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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I have a breath remover which allows me to silence or diminish the sound of the breath.
If removing breaths, I never remove the space in which a breath existed. Oftentimes I just decrease the volume of the BIG breaths. It depends on the project and it's intent.
I have noticed recently on many national commercials (and long form shows) the breathing sound has been removed.
It is a choice you as a producer of the project need to make.
If in doubt, ask.
F2 _________________ Be thankful for the bad things in life. They opened your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to before. email: thevoice@usa.com |
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Bruce Boardmeister
Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7963 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Of course breaths may not be important at all if there's lots of background noise and music in the final product. I've narrated a lot of hunting shows and sports retrospectives where you couldn't hear any extraneous noise.
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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Jack Daniel Cinquecento
Joined: 23 Jun 2016 Posts: 577 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Definitely. As Dan says, listen to what airs. Your auditions should sound like they are ready to air, and removing breaths is a big part of that. In certain forms of narration, I may choose to leave them in *if* they serve to enhance the story, but generally I take 'em all out. Certainly for trailer, promo, and commercial reads.
All of this is much less important than a great read. If you are good and have the right sound, whether you have breaths or not probably won't much matter. _________________ Jack Daniel
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11059 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Sometimes not ...
This morning the team insisted that they should remain even when I was ad libbing
https://vimeo.com/503582947 |
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todd ellis A Zillion
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 10511 Location: little egypt
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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how many people get to say ... "i will vanquish ..." in their daily life?
definitely a plus. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
who's/on/1st?
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Bish 3.5 kHz
Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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todd ellis wrote: | how many people get to say ... "i will vanquish ..." in their daily life? |
Not many I would think... but you can now add me!
"Are you going to do the vacuuming tomorrow?"
"I shall vanquish the the floor-borne dust tomorrow, never fear!"
"Have you been listening to Philip again?" _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
Smoke me a kipper... I'll be back for breakfast.
I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls. |
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