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Bruce · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:13 pm Post subject: Voiceover - You're doing it wrong

I'm not sure that's the most enticing title for an informational program, but it looks interesting. I only know a couple of presenters. Can someone in the know vouch for this being a worthwhile event?

Voxy Ladies - You're Doing It Wrong event

Thanks,

Bruce
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vkuehn · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:15 pm Post subject:

Ceilia Siegel was the featured guest Monday night on the VO-BS program. I was impressed. She does not coach or manage your voice. She is a business methodology kind of person. Let's build you an image and then let's figure out how to market that image and maintain/improve that image.

ConnieTerwilliger · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:30 pm Post subject:

I would be interested in hearing what Jim K plans to do with Realtime Casting. I tried it for a year or so and the expected union projects didn't present themselves. He mentioned when I left that they were re-vamping.

Celia, Jeffrey, MaryLynn, Van and Lisa are all qualified and Van is hysterical.

The others I do not know.

Nice that it is at least in part a fundraiser for a 501c3. It is a write-off in any event.

I can't even consider it though due to rehearsal schedule for a couple of shows I am doing the next few months.
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iannyc · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:52 am Post subject:

I can see the title/theme appealing to Bruce!! #toughlove

Bish · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:10 am Post subject:

I have met all bar one of the panelists, and I will certainly agree with Connie's comments... it is a fine group of people who are qualified to talk about the industry.

Personally, I'm actually put off by the fact that "it's for charity". I think it's a manipulative attempt to add credibility and validate the venture. I get to choose where my charity money goes... and sorry, Ryan Seacrest doesn't get it. I actually hate it when people use "charitable works" as their own promotional vehicle.

Again, as with all these things... you must ask "Why?"
Why are these eight or more getting together to present themselves to the community? Do they have stuff to up-sell? Are they engaged in a current profile-raising campaign? $45 has raised the bar on the price (what, no more $29.99!) and is no small investment. Choose wisely.

I do like the title though Laugh

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ConnieTerwilliger · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:28 am Post subject:

Great points Bish. One reason to have discussion.
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Yonie · CM Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 906

Here's what I like about it straight off: it's not VO people talking to VO people.

Philip Banks · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:12 am Post subject:

".........featuring some of the voiceover industry's most influential individuals and thought leaders"

NO THEY ARE NOT! Not anywhere near! Under no circumstances could they considered as such!

Here's the test. Take each person in the context of the above quote and, without hyperbole give one major BUSINESS, we are NOT an industry, success story. The success story should resonate with everyone, not just struggling or "I'm so excited and have no idea why" Voice Over people.

A few years ago I did an interview for an article which would appear in a national UK newspaper.

"Who have you worked for Philip?" asked the reporter.

"I do promos for CNBC"

"Mmmmyes, someone our readers will have heard of"

Make sense?

Were I asked today a quick answer would the world premier of Star Wars Rogue 1 in LA.

Now, try it with our webinar stars.

It's £20 for an upsell. Should anyone buy in, I'm sure it'll be fun but not much more. Our business has evolved for many to such an extent the there is more money to be made from Voice Over people than Voice Over work.

Bish · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:35 am Post subject:

Philip Banks · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:21 am Post subject:

One of the cutest girls in the ...almost in the voice over business, is the sort of girl that if she shakes my hand I will count my fingers afterward and a tight hug means she knows you kept your wallet in your back pocket - Note use of past tense.

I was once standing behind her while she was paying her share of a restaurant bill (czech).

The Waiter gave her a friendly smile and her looked at her credit card.

"Are you carrying any I.D Mr Patel?"

Deirdre · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:20 pm Post subject:

Lance Blair's You're Doing It Wrong
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Lee Gordon · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:19 am Post subject:

Rudy and Joan can be a bit thin-skinned, especially when it comes to one of their pet projects. Bish and I can attest to that.
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David DeFranco · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:10 pm Post subject:

Forgive me for resurrecting an aging thread about a now-past event, but this took a turn in a direction that is still very relevant for me - an honest (at least it reads that way to me) critique of the VO "edutainment" market.

I'd like to think that I could avoid the worst of would-be "personalities" without having to take Gary's super-intensive anti-charlatan training, but it leaves me wondering...

WHERE DOES ONE TURN FOR GOOD INITIAL TRAINING??
Where can a person find honest, meaningful professional instruction?
Where can someone who's eyes are not filled with stars and grandiose expectations but-does-have-a-genuine-interest-in-doing-this-work go to get realistic training, coaching, and mentoring?

I'm new to this. Heck, I'm not even qualified to say THAT yet. I haven't even really started yet. I still aspire to be new, so the topic of training and professional development is incredibly important to me. However, I'm finding it difficult, to say the least, identifying the right path to take the REAL first steps of doing this work!

There HAS to be a better way to get started than buying a bunch of gear one don't really understand, attending a few "guru" seminars and webinars, and then fumbling through a handful of $5 jobs. Right?? RIGHT??? Please?!?

I'm in my 40's, have had a couple of different "careers" and plenty of plain-old jobs. I've learned that, to be any good at anything, one should have at least a little bit of training. (Even the kid making fries* at the fast food place had to learn how to turn on the frier, right?) I have a family, a mortgage... I can't just write checks to "life coaches" who kind-of do something I would like to try, because I think it would be fun to say things into a microphone. (I do think it will be fun, but I also expect that it takes effort and isn't always easy, and doing it right means learning something about the work before you try to do the work.)

So I humbly ask you, HOW DID YOU GET STARTED - really *started*?
How would you advise a person to get started today?

Ok. Sorry for the long, rant of a first-time post.

*for our resident Brits, I believe you call them "chips". Wink