VO-BB - 19 YEARS OLD!

Philip Banks · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:43 am Post subject: AFASPD

In keeping with two (2) posts on this board related to business/income m'self and m'two (2) Collies (Border) have prepared the following Authorised Financial and Self Promoting Disclosure code. We believe that all performers (Voice Actors) should (no need to put that in brackets) adhere to both (2) elements of the code, its spirit and the other thing.

1 - Exact figures regarding personal income derived from voice acting should not be disclosed unless and only if it is in the estimation of the discloser sufficient to fund the purchase of a MASSIVE YACHT.

2 - Promotional statements (self) may imply anything as long as they
a - Fool no one.
b - are used to vanquish foes
c - Do nothing in part, whole, entirely or partly whole in their partial whole entirety.

3 - Audio books, video games and fees derived from coaching others to do voice over work do not count as
a - Being a voice over
b - there is no item b
c - so what was the point of having a c?

4 - Having a wealthy spouse, chosen lifestyle partner or a trust fund who/that/which/witch subsidises the disclosers lack of success must be disclosed. e,g " I was only able to attend WootCon because I promised ...." (nothing of a sexual nature with NO VIDEO evidence)

5 - If you have a BSF (basic studio fee) or minimum studio fee it should remain constant and not vary depending on to whom you are talking.

6 - Private messages from member to member should begin with "Do I make enough to be able to talk to you?"

7 - Claims that you are really, really busy being a Voice Actor should be supported by not having the time to write lengthy, pointless posts.

8 - Misleading disclosures that imply a big gig or huge check (cheque, Czech) are positively encouraged.

9 - Any fees disclosed should include the following or in the case of Twitter the FOLLOWERS.

10 - By Reading (Berks) the preceding, knowing someone who has read or looking as if you know someone who has read the preceding implies, infers, suggests or doesn't suggest full acceptance. Members of ANY and all (so-called) P2P sites or Facebook Voice over/actor/acting groups are exempt from all elements of this code as they have enough to worry about.

Bish · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:08 am Post subject:

Perfectly clear (unambiguous).

... except point 10 (ten). Reading (Berks) may leave those of colonial disposition confused (bewildered).
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Philip Banks · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:06 am Post subject:

Deirdre · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:12 am Post subject:

This stuff is nearly as hilarious/opaque/existential as John Lennon's In His Own Write.
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bobsouer · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: AFASPD

DenaliDave · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:12 pm Post subject:

^^ Bob, I bet R.C Bray isn't in the poor house after narrating "The Martian" and the "Fear" saga series. Smile

As the gold miners of yore would say, "There's money them hills!" ... but it seems you have to spend a lot of time panning...

Me? I'd narrate book for Satan (I have a funny story about that...and no, I didn't read a book for Satan exactly) if I was paid.

Anyway, to the topic at hand...

Why is anyone talking about how much they make anyway? I'm younger than most of you, and even I was taught that generally it's rude/bad manners to discuss income with others.

It's not like a potential customer can't Google voice over and find their way here. *waves* I don't know anyone that owns their own businesses that talks about their income ... unless specifically asked (and usually in private).
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chrisvoco · Club 300 Joined: 14 Mar 2014 Posts: 380 Location: Local

So far this year, I've earned next to Nothing.

I've also had a lot of coffee next to Nothing, taken a few short at-desk naps next to Nothing and keep a nice bottle of The Macallan next to Nothing.

I named my headphones, on the other hand, Ian Anderson.
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Philip Banks · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:54 pm Post subject:

You simply need to re-categorise such endeavours as Medical NAHrayshun as most audiobooks are the most efficacious cure for insomnia - Medical NAHrayshun as we ALL know qualifies as Voice Over work. I myself personally this quarter have billed £14 17 Shillings and four pence ha'penny extolling the virtues of Tantor the new drug designed to help people with Wonturnapage Syndrome.

As a co-opted off the steering committee member, like this thread, we take your protest very seriously. By way of an apology we are sending a donation to Arrgh the charity set up to support people who exert themselves for the video game industry.

bobsouer · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:27 pm Post subject:

Philip Banks · Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:14 am Post subject:

No one believes for one minute that audiobook narration is not Voice Over work. CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU?

We happy band of mumblers visit this place for a number of reasons. For me it is a place to put down random thoughts and sometimes share a snippet of information which may encourage people to "give it one more try" because if you break through the pain barrier it is worth it.

How likely is it that a person reading posts on the VO-BB or anywhere else will go on to make a living as a Voice Over. HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

Increase your chance by

Use the internet and do not allow it to use you. "Google may find out what you said!" - It's a tool and not designed to inspire fear.

Freedom of speech means speaking freely and listening patiently.

Easily offended - Walk away.
Don't handle rejection well - Walk away.
Unable to choose your counsel wisely - Walk away.
Unable to tell fact from fiction - Walk away.
Easily get dragged into causes or arguments that will distract you - Walk away.
Frightened to turn down money when you really need the money Walk away.
On what could be thought the worst day of your life could you walk into a studio and give THE performance of your life, if not - Walk away.
Prepared to stand your ground when all around are giving way, if not - Walk away.
When people are laughing at you are you able to join in, if not - Walk away.

There are reasons why the top 2% of Voice Over people occupy their lofty positions. They are the 2%, they are oddballs and it is nothing to do with money or its vulgarity.

Am I prepared to take this nonsense a moment longer? Yes, of course. No one loves me and I have not a friend in the world so it's this or play video games.

Where was I? Oh yes. COFFEE!

DenaliDave · Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:59 am Post subject:

Philip Banks · Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:55 am Post subject:

The audio book world is alive and well. Interesting to note that names associated with the "Audies" (Audio book awards) include the cream of the British and US acting community.

Here in the UK on BBC Radio 4 big names do back flips when they hear that they have been asked to do "A Book at bed time". It is a huge gig! The money is not going to buy a MASSIVE YACHT but the gig is still HUGE!

bobsouer · Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:54 pm Post subject:

Philip,

I am grateful to be your friend, if you'll still have me. And I love the way we give and take here. All in good fun.
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ConnieTerwilliger · Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject:

Philip Banks · Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:09 pm Post subject: