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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem I have is that my name ruins anything Villainesque.

Scene - Gstaad Switzerland HQ SPECTRE.

Jaws is summoned for his annual appraisal. They've been wanting to get of him for years so HR have introduced a height limit for Henchpersons (formally Henchmen. Yeah, I know) He is presented with a gold watch, a tax free end of contract bonus and a taxable 70% final salary pension based on his income over the preceding 3 years.

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"It'll need high ceilings" quips No3. No one laughs and he is instructed to attend Awareness Training prior to dropping free designer clothes infused with Snake venom both on Essex and the US equivalent anywhere at all.

As he starts to leave.

"One thing, who's replacing me?"

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Jaws is carried from the room giggling like a Schoolboy.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"1000 Ways To Die In The West" Snake venom doused clothing (or coated bullets).

101: dying laughing over Jaws replacement.

Loves me some Philip!

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Lance Blair
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never cut out a breath, but sometimes lowering it a touch or doing a nice subtle crossfade over it fixes it just fine and it still sounds natural.
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ConnieTerwilliger
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a big difference between "removing" breaths and "quieting" them - and depends on many of the things discussed previously in this thread.

One of our agents recently sent out an email to the roster saying that all breaths had to be "removed" - she meant that she didn't want to hear any breathing, I suppose. Not that she wanted them edited out.

Most auditions are done end-to-end without big gaps that have to be taken up. But sometimes you get a huge run-on sentence where you simply have to take a little longer to get another breath...then of course you should trim that so that it flows "naturally." And other times, say you have to do a long fast legal end, where you simply have to get more air to start the paragraph - again, that needs to be trimmed.

But eliminate all breaths (either by cutting out or reducing amplitude) seems extreme. If you are doing a particular style of radio spot, and doing the final editing, then sure - excise those pesky breaths. But in most other cases - a little light breathing seems normal. I am more concerned these days with sharp "esses".

That being said, some projects are compressed so much that any breaths (even small natural breaths) end up sounding like gasps...so in that case, yes, reduce those to pretty much 0.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ConnieTerwilliger wrote:


I am more concerned these days with sharp "esses".


A reduction of the sharp “s” by -6dB does wonders Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had an agent ask me to re-submit last week because some of my inhales were 'sharp and noticeable.'
Guess I shouldn't record while treading in water?
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Bruce
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, a good idea. If timing and the mood of a piece allow it, soft breathing can work. Also cutting a breath in half, graphically speaking, bringing the two halves closer and cross fading them can tame a loud or sharp breath. Of course the long term solution is don’t breathe so loud. Better breath control is key. Then there are the really tight commercials with 35 seconds of copy for a 29 second TV VO (like the political spots I’m doing now) where all breaths have to go.


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