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Moe Egan 4 Large
Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 4337 Location: Live Free or Die
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:44 am Post subject: |
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The lack of a Marty Tada was made up with the BUMMMFITCHH
And...a clarifying question- the goal of VO Workshop weekends *isn't* to have the largest bar tab? _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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Karyn OBryant Cinquecento
Joined: 23 Jul 2013 Posts: 561 Location: Portlandia-adjacent
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Moe Egan wrote: | the goal of VO Workshop weekends *isn't* to have the largest bar tab? |
Damn. I've been doing it wrong this whole time. _________________ * * * * * * * * * *
Pretending to be other people since 1986.
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Moe Egan 4 Large
Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 4337 Location: Live Free or Die
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I know, right!? _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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melissa eX MMD
Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 2793 Location: Lower Manhattan, New Amsterdam, the original NYC
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Of course you have it wrong. The goal is to contribute to someone else's largest bar tab. |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11049 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Embrace THIS and it will change your life for the better! Seriously.
https://vimeo.com/643452334 |
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Moe Egan 4 Large
Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 4337 Location: Live Free or Die
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:24 am Post subject: |
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"Don't be tyrannical in your positivity."
Marty needs to make merch. I would totally buy a t-shirt with that saying on it (or at least a sticker for my laptop). _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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Bish 3.5 kHz
Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:40 am Post subject: |
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I find the worst "tyrannical positivity" offenders also do CrossFit. They are the ones who actually believe you can walk to the moon if you try hard enough and have the right attitude. _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
Smoke me a kipper... I'll be back for breakfast.
I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls. |
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Moe Egan 4 Large
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Bish, I believe these are the same people who count the Peloton Coaches as real friends. _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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Lizden A Zillion
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 8856 Location: The dark recesses of my mind
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:15 am Post subject: |
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...or Facebook "friends."
W00t...Awesome d00d!!! _________________ Liz de Nesnera O.A.V. ~ Livin' The VO Dream!
English/French Bilingual VO w/ ISDN
HireLiz.com / liz@hireliz.com |
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Bruce Boardmeister
Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7941 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Where would we be without the dreamers who were extremely positive in their ideas and abilities and achieved great things? But yes, there’s a time to realize when the positivity needs corrective lenses.
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11049 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Bish 3.5 kHz
Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:30 am Post subject: |
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That's not a "probably"
That's a "definitely"
You see it so often...
"My elearning rate is around thirty cents per word... they offered me five cents per word. I feel insulted by this derisory offer. I have written to them in an attempt to educate them as to why this is so far below "market rates."
Sorry, Sunshine... they offer it because someone will take it, therefor, it is the "market rate" to them and to anyone who accepts it - Q.E.D. _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
Smoke me a kipper... I'll be back for breakfast.
I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls. |
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Bruce Boardmeister
Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7941 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I'm no mathematician, but I believe receiving $450 beats not getting $500 because of your principles, and getting $450 three times, because you're happy to work with the client and you give them good service, also beats not getting $500 one time.
And to think I failed calculus. Pah.
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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Bish 3.5 kHz
Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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I only have three rates:
1) Thank you.
2) Let's talk.
3) Sorry.
I think people have the biggest problem with number three. Some offers are simply not worth using as a starting point. If someone is offering 10~15% of your usual fee, then they're never going to get up beyond the 75% (or whatever your threshold happens to be that day). People butt their head against the principle that the work is "getting away" or that they're "losing a job" (it was never theirs to lose) and they have to blame someone else... and an uneducated or ignorant client is the perfect villain. They're uncomfortable with it being their own business decision. _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
Smoke me a kipper... I'll be back for breakfast.
I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls. |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11049 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:48 am Post subject: |
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"BALANCE" Deep breath and ....
The secret to being a happy, healthy voiceover
https://vimeo.com/644343503 |
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