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Jim Barton
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Mbox question Reply with quote

I may be temporarily moving out of town to take care of my parents, a week or so at a time. I'm trying to put together a road package to record at their house, and would like to try the Mbox (preferably the first version if I can get a good deal.)

I'm pretty certain it will work on my Gateway laptop...I tried it out a few years ago, and the only hitch was a short in my USB ports. I got the short fixed, but by that time I'd lost my motivation to purchase the Mbox and sent it back to Sweetwater.

Does anyone else have any personal experience with the Mbox? Deirdre, I know you were using one once.

I'd be using a Shure SM7 dynamic mic.

My daily setup is ProTools LE/Digi 001. I have the Waves Native Pack, which I'm not sure will run on a PC.

This move is not imminent, but these kind of things tend to come to a head fast, and I want to be prepared.

Thanks, Jim
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jim,

I had an Mbox before I upgraded to the 002-Rack. It worked fine for me, but I found I needed to use a mixer as I did not like the pre's in the Mbox, at all. The other issue that bothered me was fiddling with the knob to get zero latency monitoring. Generally, the device is OK.

If you're going to do a lot of editing, you might want to invest in an inexpensive control surface.

Personally, I'd recommend an M-Audio product over the M-box at this time. Kitzie may actually have an M-box, as she recently upgraded to PT 7.0 and M-Audio.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used an M-box before my 002 and loved it. Performed without a problem on both my Macs and my PC. Not as user-friendly as the 002, but you simply CANNOT beat it for bang for your buck.

If you can live without the M-box 2 (MIDI differences, mainly), you can pick up an M-box really cheap nowadays.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim,

If you're currently running PT and are happy with it, then by all means I would recommend buying an M-box.. the M-box 2 is absolutely unecessary for the purposes that we typically use it for.

I take mine on the road with me all of time, and while I agree with the comments regarding the pre-amps, I have no problems sending audio that I've recorded while on the road, without my studio pre...

Check out e-bay, you should be able to pick one up for less than $250 now

Ebay Item Numbers:

7387537991
7387034268
7387329158
7387419882
7388053401

Happy hunting!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep-- I'm happy as the proverbial clam with my Mbox, even though the plastic is incredibly El Cheaparino.

It works-- what can I say?
I need another preamp like a need a hole in the head, but farking Digi won't make a dongle, so I've got that beastly thing.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim,

As a son of an aging mom with dementia, my thoughts are with you.

I did the "portable thing" thinking that I was actually going to travel. Bill hasn't been able to get out of town since 1997. (Bill pauses to laugh hysterically...and to question why he speaks of himself in the third person in a public post.) That hasn't happened, but a laptop, mixer, mic and a power cord running to a converter plugged into the lighter of my car has saved my life during tornado season. Of course, dial up is so slow it makes your hair hurt.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for your responses regarding the Mbox. It looks like I'll probably proceed with an Ebay purchase...I used to haunt Ebay, both as a buyer and seller, but it's been a few years.

Believe it or not, thanks to Charlie's suggestion, I looked at the M-Audio web page. There are a few intriguing, simple interfaces there, much less expensive than a new Mbox2. Do these work with the ProTools software? (I apologize for asking this before really reading the information on the web.)

Bill, you picked up on my family situation right off. My Mom's pretty deep into Alzheimer's, and my Dad now has Macular Degeneration in both eyes. Thus my plans to be with them a week at a time, trading off with my 3 sisters. All I need now is to talk my Dad into going with cable broadband, as opposed to AOL dialup!

Again, thanks to all.

Jim
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, best of luck with your folks' situation. My brothers and I went through a similar situation over a year ago.

As for the MBox. I really, really wanted to like it, as I pretty much use ProTools Free for most of my stuff. For some reason I'm unable to link to a thread on the Digidesign User Conference, but if you were to search there for posts by dg44, you can read about my issues with the MBox.

Long story short, I tried and returned two of them and have gone back to ProTools Free. The only problem is that I need to boot into OS9 to use it, but it's worth it for longer projects. On the plus side of that, PTFree works with pretty much any audio interface. And it's available for both Mac (as I said, OS9 only) and Windows.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Windows users, don't forget that Pro Tools Free only works on Windows 98/Me and no other version of Windows either before or after that.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Pro Tools LE on both my mac & PC without any problems at all, but I do believe Elaine is correct about the 'free' version.

$225 for an mBox WITH Pro Tools LE is as smokin' a deal as they come! Using and knowing Pro Tools will definitely be a feather in your cap.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for clarifying that, Elaine. I didn't think to check as to which versions of Windows, being a Mac user.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

About 4 years ago I tried to "test" the computer requirements of ProTools Free. I downloaded it to a Compaq laptop, Win 98, powered with an AMD processor (a no-no for ProTools Free.) Needless to say the Compaq froze immediately, which is a shame, because I know plenty of folks who use Free successfully to this day (with approved computer configurations.)

Don I read your posts on the DUC. Sounds like we had the same experience...white noise, unpredictable playback. Obviously you never were able to track down the problem and you sent your second Mbox back?

As I've said before I've been using PTLE so long now that I'd love it if I could continue the experience on my laptop. I'll watch Ebay and see what comes up.

Thanks again,

Jim
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:01 am    Post subject: PT Free Reply with quote

Hi There!
I've used PT Free on my older Supermac OS9... PTFree is not OSX native, I haven't tried it in classic to see if it works there, mostly using Logic Express...
Cheers!
Dave

P.S. Having experience with PT is a plus!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Barton wrote:
[snip]Don I read your posts on the DUC. Sounds like we had the same experience...white noise, unpredictable playback. Obviously you never were able to track down the problem and you sent your second Mbox back?


Yes, I did send the second one back. And I might as well take this opportunity to commend Musician's Friend for their super service through this ordeal. This all happened back in August and September. To make a long story short, I received what seemed to be a defective unit. I called MF (after speaking with Digidesign) and MF emailed me a Fedex return shipping label and I ordered another MBox to try again. The second one arrived and I experienced the same problem and again after calling Digi, called MF to arrange for a return. This time, no trying again. I would prefer the credit to my Amex. Again, Musician's Friend emailed me a return shipping Fedex label.

Realizing that returns typically are processed much less quickly than initial purchases, I figured I'd just keep an eye on my statements. To their credit (and mine, no pun intended), they received package #1 on 9/3 and the full amount was credited to my Amex on 9/8. They received package #2 on the 13th and it was fully credited on the 16th.

Other than the frustration of not having the item work properly for me (which was no fault of Musician's Friend) and my time, this ordeal cost me zero. In addition, they were very helpful on the phone on both occasions I needed them. I have bought from them since and will continue to do so as the need arises.

Just thought props were due.

Oh, and P.S. They had the best price at the time, by far: $299. In fact, while the exchanges were all happening, I noticed that it went up to $349 on their website, which was still one of the best prices I'd seen.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the Presonus Firebox instead of the MBox for those looking to purchase...it's outstanding.

http://www.zzounds.com/item--PRSFIREBOX
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