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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:17 pm    Post subject: Interesting Listening Reply with quote

This may be old news to everyone here, but there is an MP3 of the Jim Bohannon show that features Joe Cipriano and Don LaFontaine helping to promote Joan Baker's book "Secrets of Voice-Over Success". The file includes them chatting during the commercial breaks as well as what went on air. I found it on Joe Cipriano's web site http://www.joecipriano.com/
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hadn't heard it, so thanks for the post.

-Anthony
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The file is 70.9MBs, even with broadband there is a wait time to download. Has anyone read the book "Secrets of Voice-over Succes?"
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan-O wrote:
The file is 70.9MBs, even with broadband there is a wait time to download. Has anyone read the book "Secrets of Voice-over Succes?"


No, was it written by someone who is failing to make a success of being a voice over? They usually are.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't read the book, but the author, Joan Baker, is QUITE successful. Glad to hear Joe Cipriano was included in the mix, usually you only hear about L.A.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banksey wrote:
No, was it written by someone who is failing to make a success of being a voice over? They usually are.


THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!

I wrote a book on how to become a millionaire and....well, it'll happen someday, you just wait!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banksey wrote:
No, was it written by someone who is failing to make a success of being a voice over? They usually are.


Banksey, you old curmudgeon. You're like the guy who says "Those who can't DO--Teach."

I like both.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deirdre wrote:
Banksey wrote:
No, was it written by someone who is failing to make a success of being a voice over? They usually are.


Banksey, you old curmudgeon. You're like the guy who says "Those who can't DO--Teach."

I like both.


...or was it "Those who cannot Speak--Write."
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:35 am    Post subject: interesting listening! Reply with quote

Oh Mr. Banks,

Have you not heard of the likes of one Harlan Hogan who makes more than just a buck or two voiceing and has written TWO fine v-o books, or even Gary Owens of Laugh in Fame who can still be heard on many national accounts?

Be cheery this cheery season.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:37 am    Post subject: Thanks! Reply with quote

I downloaded that one and burned to a cd for on-the-road listening!

Thanks for the link DM!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't read the book but I'd like to. I read VO books just for entertainment and, in some cases, inspiration. I NEVER read VO books for a how-to on entering the business.

I've noticed that most books on entering the VO business are very anecdotal; Bottom line is there is no guideline - everyone's story is different and to try to follow someone else's path is a waste of time.

You can however take tidbits of info that you may (or may not) be able to apply to your own career. The most helpful book in my career has been the "80/20 Principal" by Richard Koch. Maybe I'll write a book on how not to enter the VO industry... seriously.

-Anthony
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:34 pm    Post subject: I read the book Reply with quote

It is actually quite well written. The majority of the chapters were written by quite successful VO's including Don LaFontaine and Dave Fanoy. Many others contributed to it as well. Joan Baker's relative died of Alzheimer’s and the book benefits the charity. The book is definitely worth it and it is for a good cause too.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I are a published righter, neerly.

Broadcasting - Breaking Down the Barriers by Nick Baker. I wrote the foreword and got a credit.

Nick interviewed the cream of British television and asked them to explain how they did it.

That quotation is...........

"Those who can, do
Those who can't, teach
Those who can't even teach go into politics"

On a serious note. Is anyone here able to report how a voice over coach helped to turn their career around or how a particular book made a specific difference?

One of the advantages of not knowing who's who (it's a Portgordon thing) is that I take things at face value.

"Hi I'm Bob Ass, I've done VO for 23 years and have been on nationals, read my book".

"Hi, I'm Nora Bone. Weather Presenter for W-Atch. I teach voice in classes at....."

The buyers response should be to ask which TV or radio station do they tune to now to hear someone who has benefited from the coach or writers wisdom.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banksey wrote:
On a serious note. Is anyone here able to report how a voice over coach helped to turn their career around or how a particular book made a specific difference?


Pat Fraley's tape set : Creating Character Voices for Fun and Profit was the biggie for me. After listening I was able to really sharpen up my small cast of characters and catalog them in such a way that I can call upon them at any time.

That was the first Pat Fraley book/tape I used. I like all the teaching stuff he produces.

Do I use my characters often? No, they're rarely called for with my current professional situations, but I keep 'em sharp with things like
Doctor Shroud or podcast-type radio dramas. When the chances do arise, I've got my cast in my pocket-- all the time.

As far as my own style is concerned: relentless practice and occasional calls for feedback. Those are my techniques.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banksey wrote:
On a serious note. Is anyone here able to report how a voice over coach helped to turn their career around or how a particular book made a specific difference?

One of the advantages of not knowing who's who (it's a Portgordon thing) is that I take things at face value.


I don't blame you, Banksey.
I can tell you though that one of my VO coaches was responsible for a referall to an A-list agency which I now freelance with. Also, she got me a 3-radio spot campaign for the New York City Department of Health through a personal manager contact of hers.

As far as VO books - NO. None have helped me directly although I do draw inspiration from some of what I've read. Again, the only book that has helped me turn around my career (and get me into VO's 100%) was "The 80/20 Principal."

Sometimes it's good to be geographically isolated though - you might tend to have a much more unbiased opinion.

-Anthony
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