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brianforrester
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:
KISS...


I'd better sign off before I get us into a SNAFU, and we all know what THAT means!

Bruce


We do?... I think I get the FU, but the rest is lost on me! I've used it, but I don't know what the letters stand for :oops:

My goodness, we'd better be careful. With all these acronyms, we'll be confused for a military bulletin board, not a vo-bb :wink:
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Situation Normal, All Fouled Up.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:
What Drew said.

As someone who has posted a number of auditions at V123 and listened to and read through many hundreds of responses, KISS is the phrase that pays. I literally listen to the first 3 to 10 seconds of 75% of the demos and move on. If they're not right for the job, why stick around? Then if they're appropriate enough to listen to the whole audition, then I'll read what they've written. And you won't believe the epic tales that some people will write...makes me think some of them are wackos or anal retentives and that working with them will be a challenge.

You should write with the assumption that you are both experienced business people and you know why you're here on the website together. Answer what they've asked for and give them only what they need to know beyond that and you'll look like a pro.

Bruce


Thanks Bruce, for a client's perspective on things. Too often we as voice talents don't hear these sorts of things.
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the most interesting things about clients who come direct as opposed to via an agent is that when they ask how much I charge they are really trying to see if I am able to guess what they are prepared to pay. My response is usually to say that if they have a budget I will do my best to fit in but if it's not enough I will say so and I will then tell them my minimum session fee. If you want to haggle go to a Turkish market and buy a carpet.
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Deirdre
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haggling is the pits.

I just spent the better portion of the day in a haggle session with Westwood One.
The Metro Traffic contract ended yesterday and the company is behaving badly. REALLY badly, but first they had to jerk us around for a couple of hours.

I was there for 4 hours in negotiations with management and talent and it wasn't over when I had to leave.

We may be on strike next week.
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fingers and toes crossed for you that it all turns out ok.
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Deirdre
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.

The corporate dopes must think we'd never actually take a "job action" just before Christmas.

Pah! Just watch.

There's no danged reason for corporate capitalism to be adversarial.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Witnessing the The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys were ya, D.B.?

Corporate boyz behaving badly? Never!


Is it the Canadian Club, or did sumbudy turn the lights out?
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brianforrester
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew wrote:
Witnessing the [i]
Is it the Canadian Club, or did sumbudy turn the lights out?


MMMMMMM.... Canadian Club! Laugh

Deebs... I'm sorry, but this star ship enterprise theme is givin' me a headache... and it certainy can't be the CC cause it's waaaay to early for a hangover! :wink:

Have a great weekend everybody!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm kinda diggin the look, myself. But then I did go into official mourning when my hero, Dr. Tim Leary, died. Flashbackin' on a Friday night wit my CC and Window Pane.
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