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vox1 · Contributor IV Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 126

It seems somehow ironic to get the following in my mailbox from
Voice123.com....

From: voice123 ,

>>Dear Talent:

Does your voiceover demo really work for you? AFTRA invites you to the Voiceover Skills Workshop for AFTRA@WORK on Tuesday November 8th, to find our what works in an effective demo and what doesn't.

Join and hear a panel of experience working voice over artists discuss current trends, (etc etc).
RSVP to Michele Caruso at 212.863.4253. Seating is limited, so make sure to make a reservation.
If you have any questions or comments please http://voice123.com/web/common/contact_us.cgi<<

This coming to me from an entity(voice123) that fosters anything but a "union" sensibility toward rate integrity and sustaining equitable standards of compensation. i had no idea voice123 was
an AFTRA-signatory agent to presume to promote such a seminar
LOL. Maybe it's just me but i found it just slightly curious to see
Voice123 presuming any sort of affiliation and/or encouragement
of anything union-oriented, given the forum it provides for the most
low-ball 'anything goes' services and rate quotes imaginable.

Whatever,

Mark E/Mich
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Spacegypsy · Guest

Well, I for one am going to this.

Can we give credit where credit is due?

I for one welcome this seminar, and thanks to Voice123 for offering it.

Are you in NYC? I'm wondering if they are sending the invite to NYC folks only.

Plus, what a GREAT networking opp! Smile

Katrina

SoundsGreat-Elaine Singer · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:02 pm Post subject:

I think they must have sent it to everyone because I got it as well and I'm in Toronto. If I were in New York, I'd definitely be going - you're right, it is a great networking opportunity.
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Deirdre · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:22 pm Post subject:

I'm listed as a "Union-only" talent with these guys and believe me, as such the number of public leads is minuscule-- and most of the time the client who is looking has no idea under the sun what to expect when they include union members in their talent request.

In ongoing defense if V123, I have gotten some very nice leads that were private.
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anthonyVO · 14th Avenue Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 1470 Location: NYC

Sorry - but if you don't have an AFTRA card, you're not getting in.

I confirmed this with Michele at AFTRA.

Maybe V123 wants to make themselves seem pro-active by sending this out to all of their members.
Let me make it clear that this is NOT a Voice123 "offering" - all AFTRA@WORK events are released via press releases to entertainment outlets (like Back Stage for example), but it is still a UNION ONLY EVENT.
Voice123 deserves no credit for this event whatsoever and we all know how much a N/U lowball war that website is - definitely not in keeping with Union ideals.

Sorry.

-Anthony

SoundsGreat-Elaine Singer · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:37 am Post subject:

Interesting, Anthony. Now I think even less of V123 - if that's possible.
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Drew · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:34 am Post subject:

Pretty cheesy move on their part.
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Deirdre · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:41 am Post subject:

The notice went to everyone?

Sending an invitation to people who wouldn't be allowed to attend...
Poo... too bad. That's really not very nice.
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Drew · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:44 am Post subject:

Yup. Went out to all of us.
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Spacegypsy · Guest

Thanks for the info Anthony.

Not only that, they're probably making Michele at AFTRA's job a lot harder, with non-union Voice Talents calling who think they CAN go - like me!

I thought Michele was a Voice123 person, not AFTRA. They did not make that clear.

They're hardly increasing their reputation with the unions by causing this extra telephone traffic for them unnecessarily.

anthonyVO · 14th Avenue Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 1470 Location: NYC

Here's the email communication just for the record:

Philip Banks · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:27 am Post subject:

The market in the USA and the UK would change if union members, be they SAG, AFTRA or Equity came with a quality assurance certificate. As an Equity member I have the same professional standing as a bareback horse rider or a cabaret dancer.

Lack of talent or specific ability exists within the ranks of union membership. Caveat emptor applies whether a client is looking for a voice on Voice123 or through a list of union members.

Spacegypsy · Guest

Michele from AFTRA just called me to say this seminar is cancelled

Deirdre · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:

Wow-- what a clusterf*&k.
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Drew · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:29 am Post subject:

...As only V123 can create. Just answer a lead these days. Cluster%^&#@ is a mild description.
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