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		| Mike Harrison M&M
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:20 am    Post subject: Learnnovators :: UPDATE |   |  
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				| Does anyone have any experience with the eLearning company Learnnovators? 
 Comments, pro or con?
 
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		| todd ellis A Zillion
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:03 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well, I see they are in India which is (likely) going to mean 7˘ - 9˘/word. _________________
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		| BruceG Been Here Awhile
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:24 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I dug in a little bit and checked out their Portfolio videos. The VO sounds a LOT like AI was used. 
 I wouldn't even bother
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		| Bruce Boardmeister
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:25 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Aren’t we all supposed to be “one” with the digital world in another decade or so … part of the “singularity“? Here’s your chance to get in on the ground floor! Be a selection in our roster of binary and not binary performance units today. 
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		| Mike Harrison M&M
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:46 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The response from Todd is precisely the reason I stopped reaching out to those companies years ago. I thought I would try again to see if things had changed for the better. I will submit the GVAA per-word rate of 25˘ - 35˘ to them, and two other India-based companies to get an average and see what the response is. 
 BruceG's reply appears to be correct, also, so it seems there's a tendency to lean toward the ineffective and therefore self-destructive "that's good enough mindset.
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		| todd ellis A Zillion
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:21 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | I thought I would try again to see ... | 
 
 I would be interested to hear the results.
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		| Mandy Nelson MMD
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:53 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | todd ellis wrote: |  	  | I would be interested to hear the results.
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 Me, too, please.
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		| Mike Harrison M&M
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well, thus far, after reaching out to two additional eLearning companies with the GVAA rate, Learnnovators has responded by thanking me for my submission and saying I will next receive from them their "Service Agreement" and "Tax Residency Certificate" forms to sign and return. Perhaps it's silly of me to assume they've accepted the GVAA rate, but we shall see. 
 Any idea what a Tax Residency Certificate might be?
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		| todd ellis A Zillion
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:21 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| It's an IRS form that proves you are a resident of the United States for federal tax purposes. _________________
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		| Mike Harrison M&M
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:13 am    Post subject: UPDATE |   |  
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				| UPDATE: While there has been no response from the other two India-based eLearning companies I contacted, Learnnovators has received and, apparently, accepted the GVAA-based rates I provided them, for they have sent a very simple (free of rambling legal mumbo-jumbo), one-page service agreement for me to sign (along with that Tax Residency Certificate).
 
 Given the rise of AI, and that another VO has reported hearing "his voice" in at least one recording he did not perform, I am strongly considering adding the following clause to my agreement with Learnnovators. Please give me your thoughts. Thanks.
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | Use of the audio recordings of Contractor's voice shall be limited to the original content of the scripts supplied, and are not to be digitally sampled or manipulated in any other way for any other use whatsoever. | 
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		| todd ellis A Zillion
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:56 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Looks like a smart idea to me. _________________
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		| Mike Harrison M&M
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:08 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks, Todd. Would you change any of the wording? _________________
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		| Bruce Boardmeister
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:08 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I’d run it past the ChatGPT a  first and see what it has to say. I hear it knows a lot about A.I.   
 
 
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		| Mike Harrison M&M
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:12 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks, Bruce. I appreciate that you added the rolling-eyes emoji, otherwise, I wouldn't have known if you were serious. _________________
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		| todd ellis A Zillion
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:55 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I'm no lawyer - but it looks pretty good to me. _________________
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