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paulstefano Backstage Pass
Joined: 22 Sep 2015 Posts: 411 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:40 pm Post subject: Listed with an Agent, Best Practices |
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Hello Everybody,
I was fortunate to get listed with an Agent today. Well, soon. They say I'll be on Voicebank by the end of the week.
My question is, what is the best way to publicize, this? I was talking to one actor who said put just "Has representation" on a website, card etc.
Is that enough? Should I go ahead and list the agency? So far its a "non-exclusive" deal so I'm really just on their roster.
Part of me wonders if I should just not mention it at all (other than here of course).
Any input would be much appreciated
thanks
Paul _________________ http://www.paulstefano.com |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13016 Location: East Jesus, Maine
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paulstefano Backstage Pass
Joined: 22 Sep 2015 Posts: 411 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Deirdre. Do you think it's silly to list 1 though on a website? _________________ http://www.paulstefano.com |
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Dan-O The Gates of Troy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1636
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Agents are your partners in business. They are your advocates and you should encourage new clients to work through them. A good agent will remove the awkwardness of negotiations and allow you to build a relationship in a more personal manner with your client. They also provide a good buffer to keep lowballers away and attract a higher grade of prospective clients.
Now, being this is your first agent: I would hold off for a while and get a feel for how they represent not only you, but themselves before you promote an alliance.
Sorry for the brevity. On my cell phone. I could easily write a few chapters about this. |
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paulstefano Backstage Pass
Joined: 22 Sep 2015 Posts: 411 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:10 am Post subject: |
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That's a good call Dan, thanks. I do know it's reputable company, even representing some other VO-BBers, but it's worth seeing how it works out with me, not only for my sake, but for theirs. _________________ http://www.paulstefano.com |
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paulstefano Backstage Pass
Joined: 22 Sep 2015 Posts: 411 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Dan-O wrote: |
Now, being this is your first agent: I would hold off for a while and get a feel for how they represent not only you, but themselves before you promote an alliance.
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Okay, so now I have 2 as of today. I forgot to mention these are both "non-exclusive" listings. Does that make a difference as to weather or not I mention them publicly or on my website? _________________ http://www.paulstefano.com |
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Monk King's Row
Joined: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 1152 Location: Nestled in the Taconic Hills
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Here's how I work with my agents.
We work together. They're not my sole source of work, but they find me work that was not on my radar. (on camera, national stuff, etc.)
I have them listed on my website and on my composite card.
Their regions overlap a little, but as of yet, that hasn't been an issue as they seem to have different client bases.
My goal is to keep myself busy, and if there's anyway I can help my agent keep busy, it's a win-win. I strive to be on their mind, just as I do with my regular clients. I guess I treat them pretty much the same; shout outs, occasional gifts, holiday and birthday wishes. They do work for me, but I don't lose site of the idea they're in it for the money. The more I make, the more they make.
So ya, talk em up, do good work and get more work.
That's my .o2¢ _________________ Company, villainous company, hath been the spoil of me...
www.monksvoice.com |
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Dan-O The Gates of Troy
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:42 am Post subject: |
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I forgot to say this above: Congrats!
I've always seen agents as markers of career growth and gatekeepers. "Only the worthy shall pass!" As you move forward you will have to let some go, since they may not offer opportunities worth your current market value. But, you will gain new ones that will offer jobs you only once dreamt about.
Now here's a bit of advice to keep in your back pocket: always remain on good terms with you agents. Both of the agencies listed on my page above came into my life on the recommendations of former agents. Be honest. Always take the high road. Never try to undercut them. And provide them with reasons to advocate for you. (read this)
paulstefano wrote: | ... both "non-exclusive" listings. Does that make a difference as to weather or not I mention them publicly or on my website? |
Non-exclusive is the preferred choice. It means you are free to work with anyone you want. However, if the agent gets you work you must honor that and continue to work with that client through that agency. Personally, if an agent presents me with a contract of exclusivity, I would be very hesitant. It's a trust issue for me. A handshake agreement is all that's necessary. |
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paulstefano Backstage Pass
Joined: 22 Sep 2015 Posts: 411 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the replies so far. Really helpful. If you have more insight, I'd still love to hear it.
One thing about Dan's comments. A handshake is all it takes. That scares me. Is that just the way it is on a non-exclusive deal? _________________ http://www.paulstefano.com |
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Dan-O The Gates of Troy
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Yes, that's truly all that's necessary. They do their job and you do yours, you both get paid. This is why you should only work with reputable agencies. If you hear any rumblings about an agent, the rumours are most likely true. |
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richvoice Been Here Awhile
Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 217 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I'd suggest not worrying about either situation. Non-exclusivity? No problem, you can work with whoever you want (just making sure that you act professionally and ethically in all situations, as Dan-O suggested). Exclusive contract? No problem, as long as the exclusivity is reasonable (e.g., "within a 100 mile radius" as opposed to "within the continental U.S.") and the contract is for a reasonable time period (e.g., one year) and gives you as many rights as the agent in terms of termination.
Be happy. _________________ Cheers,
Rich
http://www.richvoiceproductions.com
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Bob Bergen CM
Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 937
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Whom are you publicizing to and where? What's your point to publicize?
......there are better answers to this. Just curious yours. And who is the agent??? |
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paulstefano Backstage Pass
Joined: 22 Sep 2015 Posts: 411 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Bob. Just my website. Maybe not the correct words. I just wanted to be able to list the names of the agents as a point of contact.
Being new to this aspect of the biz, I wasn't sure if an agent would be mad at me if I first, listed their contact information at all and
second, Had multiple agents listed.
I've seen varied approaches, from people who have a list of 7 to none at all. _________________ http://www.paulstefano.com |
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4931 Location: Location, Location!
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Bob Bergen CM
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Well, not all agents are created equal. There are some whom if you list might hurt more than help. There are others that if you list and have a bad demo, their repping you trumps that bad demo.
Bottom line is this. We hire our agents. They sell us. If you want them to sell you, the buyers need to know who they are. So if you think their clout is worthy of promoting you then post em on your site. |
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