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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: Normalizing/ Gain: what the heck is the difference? |
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Is there any?
I'll use gain to adjust peaks.
Normalizing afftects the amplitude of the entire region-- up or down.
So does Gain.
So...what? _________________ DBCooperVO.com |
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anthonyVO 14th Avenue
Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 1470 Location: NYC
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Different ways of getting to the same result, except that Normalization takes a "limit" into consideration while gain just says,"OK - I'll increase it, but you might clip!"
-Anthony
EDIT: Or a simpler exaplanation
YOU TO GAIN - "OK, I have five apples. Give me 3 more"
GAIN IN REPLY - "Here you go. I hope you can carry all of them. Oh, who cares. Here's your 3 additional apples."
YOU TO NORMALIZATION - "OK, I need 8 apples. I don't know how many I have now, but just make it happen."
NORMALIZATION IN REPLY - "Hmmm... You have 5 apples already so I'll need to give you 3 apples. I see you can carry them so here you go." |
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anthonyVO 14th Avenue
Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 1470 Location: NYC
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:36 am Post subject: |
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oh one more thing - i used the word "limit" but normalization has nothing to do with limiting in terms of what a limiter does.
there - i hope i confused the creak out of any audio newbie
yikes :-! |
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anthonyVO 14th Avenue
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: |
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and yet another thing - a limiter is actually a compressor
sorry.
That's it from me.
-Anthony |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13016 Location: East Jesus, Maine
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: |
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I knew a couple of those things.
heh.
In Pro Tools (Frank-- shut up!! xoxo)---
for my money, the Gain Control disdplay is superior to my Normalize display.
With Gain-- it tells me if I am at peak.
With the Normalize control, it just asks for a percent.
I think I'm all set.
I like Bomb Factory. Awesome compression without sounding like a doof. _________________ DBCooperVO.com |
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anthonyVO 14th Avenue
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Deirdre wrote: | I like Bomb Factory. Awesome compression without sounding like a doof. |
LOL - i agree |
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Hart Assistant Asylum Chief
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 2107 Location: Foley, AL
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13016 Location: East Jesus, Maine
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:03 am Post subject: |
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I want more pix of Hart on the beach with more bareness in the arm department. _________________ DBCooperVO.com |
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Audiogal King's Row
Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 1083 Location: Shreveport, LA
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Anthony, I think the apples explanation was wonderful. Now if someone would do the same for everything in the studio, I would be happy.
It would make a great series of posts/articles/blog entries/book. (Hint, hint) _________________ Mary |
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Hart Assistant Asylum Chief
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 2107 Location: Foley, AL
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Deirdre wrote: | I want more pix of Hart on the beach with more bareness in the arm department. |
I'd love to have more pics of me on the beach to share, lol.
On that note, I've been meaning to tell you how awesome your current av is. You look so ... domineering. _________________ Hart Voice Overs Blog
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13016 Location: East Jesus, Maine
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Hart wrote: | On that note, I've been meaning to tell you how awesome your current av is. You look so ... domineering. |
Baby Doll, you have no idea. _________________ DBCooperVO.com |
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asnively Triple G
Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 3204 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Great topic. I've been wondering about normalization as well. Does one do the normalization before or after compression, etc.? I usually apply one of my favorite Izotope Ozone 3 (for Adobe Audition) presets, then normalize to 100%. Am I lame?
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Drew King's Row
Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1118 Location: Tumbleweed Junction, The Republic of North Texas
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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I can always toy with amplitude, but I'll never be "normal".
Yo, Amy, did you actually pony up the $249 and change for that Ozone 3 plug-in?
I tried the ten day freebie trial and thought it was pretty good, but not for that price. _________________ www.voiceoverdrew.com
Skype: andrew.hadwal1
Although I have a full head of hair, I'm quite ribald. |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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asnively wrote: | Am I lame? |
Oh, my God-- Amy.
I am so glad my fried egg sandwich did not come through my nose when I read that. _________________ DBCooperVO.com |
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dhouston67 VO-BB Intarwebz Glossary Administrator
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 1166 Location: Right next door to Sandra Bullock. No, really.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Deirdre wrote: | Hart wrote: | On that note, I've been meaning to tell you how awesome your current av is. You look so ... domineering. |
Baby Doll, you have no idea. |
Hart beat me to it; I agree. Now to shut up before I get in trouble....
Back on topic: Adobe Audition's "Compander" setting makes for a nice subtle compression without the uber-FM-radio squeezing. (Set it to "Classic Soft Knee for that effect.) _________________ Great Voice. Great Choice. For Voice Talking and stuff.
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