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JBarrett M&M
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2043 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:08 pm Post subject: Audiobook characters and accent authenticity |
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Yeah, that title is a mouthful, but so is the subject of this post.
I recently got a two-book audiobook deal (yay!), and in my conversations with the author, he decided that he wants to play with accents for some of the characters. The books are sci-fi young adult titles set in some other region of space, so there are no references to any known locations or languages. In that light, how much should I care about accent authenticity?
A couple examples: the author suggested that one character have an upper-class British accent, while for another he suggested "a more lower-class accent, that kind of 60s British Invasion rock-n-roller sound." The listener doesn't know this. They're just going to hear my take at two different British accents. If I take my best crack at them but end up crossing who-knows-how-many regional boundaries with them, does it matter, or is it enough that the voices are distinct from each other (and hopefully consistent throughout the book)? _________________ Justin S. Barrett
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Yonie CM
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 906
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Personal opinion, not professional:
As long as it is consistent, the actual accent in itself isn't as important to me. Granted that I listen and read mostly fantasy, which gives some leeway.
I also think that the author should be serviced. It is his story and characters, after all. Perhaps give some suggestions as to what you think would be a good choice? Crudely speaking, it seems he wants one that has excellent articulation, while the other tosses his words out after having them pass through a grinder, bonesaw, and pool of sludge (heavy scouser).
2 pence and a fag worth. Wait for the other narrators to appear with their wisdom. |
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Bish 3.5 kHz
Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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If you've got two Brit accents to do, and the only reason is to differentiate between the two characters, then I wouldn't get hung up on any regional accuracy at all. My suggestion would be to select two disparate Brits and keep their characters in mind when voicing. You could try Alan Rickman vs. Jason Statham... (or maybe Jeremy Irons vs. Bob Hoskins) again, don't try impersonations, just keep them in mind and channel their "class".
Yonie's right with emphasizing consistency, but personally, I'd avoid anything demonstrably regional, especially scouse... you're all too familiar with The Beatles, and it may be one of the few regional Brit accents that Americans may be critical of, if not matching their memories of the lovable mop-tops.
But please... eradicate all thoughts of Dick Van Dyke from your mind. The cheeky chappie from Mary Poppins never happened... repeat, never happened (revisionist history at work).
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Lance Blair M&M
Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2279 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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First off, congrats.
Next: if it's YA and it's Sci-Fi and not taking place in the UK, just have at it and keep the characters consistent. Just keep the two voices different from each other in a manner that is appropriate for the characters. Dont' worry about accents. It's all about characters and distinct personalities in Audiobooks, no?
Furthermore, if it's YA and for a US market, you can get away with not being authentically British.
Everything that Yonie said was spot-on. If you hit it the way the author wants, then don't fret. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
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Diane Havens Backstage Pass
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Cool, Justin -- congrats! Brits in space, eh? I didn't even know they had a space program. I go with something reminiscent of Monty Python. _________________ Diane
Veni, Vidi, Voci
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Yonie CM
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Bish wrote: |
Yonie's right with emphasizing consistency, but personally, I'd avoid anything demonstrably regional, especially scouse...
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Oh ye gods no! I wasn't saying he should go with scouser, though it could probably be interpreted as that.
To clarify and simplify: One character articulates well, the other one bends and twists words to his liking. That's accent-wise, then come the characterisations. I could compare Received and some heavy West Country accent (probably mistaken for Irish with some Americans, due to the 'liquid' R).
If you want to hear some really good characters/accents, Jim Dale does some stellar work in his recordings of the Harry Potter books. Roy Dotrice (Song of Ice and Fire series with Game of Thrones being the first book) has some good ones as well.
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Bish 3.5 kHz
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Not so much Python as Izzard... the British space program is a very long ladder.
I though of another good disparate pairing, fictional this time... James Bond and Harry Palmer _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
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JBarrett M&M
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Many thanks for the replies so far! Some great thoughts in there. Admittedly I have no idea what "scouse" is, so there probably isn't much danger of me hitting it accidentally...I hope...
I probably should have also mentioned that these two Brit voices will also differ in other ways that should make the separation a bit easier than if I only had the accent to work with: the upper-class one is a young female, while the lower-class one is a middle-aged male. _________________ Justin S. Barrett
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Yonie CM
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 906
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Just for your information, Justin: "Scouse" is a colloquial term for the accent that originates in and around Liverpool. |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11049 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Diane Havens wrote: | Brits in space, eh? I didn't even know they had a space program. |
With all this tea to drink there really is only so much time left for extensive travel.
If we were told that the E-type could make the trip with the top down we may have been tempted. |
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Lance Blair M&M
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Man, I used to love the Brits in Space skits on The Muppet Show. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
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Bruce Boardmeister
Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7926 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:16 am Post subject: |
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It's science fiction, yes? It takes place in a time or Universe way beyond ours, yes? So who knows what Brit accents, or any accents, would sound like then or there? I agree that class distinction and internal attitudes would be good guides, and once you set your character, consistency is crucial. Plus if you're reading a woman's role that should rely much more on attitude too.
A tad off topic, but one of the reasons I truly enjoyed the Firefly sci-fi series was that they frequently threw in Chinese expressions amongst the English. A hint of what happened between their time and ours?
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heyguido MMD
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 2507 Location: RDU, the Geek Capitol of the South
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | the British space program is a very long ladder.
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OH MY GOD!!! You're killin' me!!!
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whalewtchr Cinquecento
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Bish wrote: | keep their characters in mind when voicing. |
Yes! _________________ jonahcummings |
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