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Adam Verner Contributore Level V

Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 198 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:19 am Post subject: Is Gollum voice acting, or just acting? |
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Inspired by this list:
http://listverse.com/2011/02/08/20-greatest-voice-over-performances/
I wrote a blog post about "the definition of voice acting," which, in a nutshell, asks the question:
http://www.adamverner.com/blog/2011/02/15/fuzzy-lines-of-voice-acting/
With CGI "costumes" becoming more and more accurate, what should the definition of "voice acting" be? In the comments, a writer proposes that Andy Serkis as Gollum should be viewed as "acting," not "voice acting," due to the level of physicality required.
Also - the list has lots of cool voices  _________________ Adam
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cyclometh King's Row

Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 1051 Location: Olympia, WA
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Acting is acting. We can't really draw too many distinctions between "types" because there's always something that blurs those lines.
I look at it as a continuum, not a set of discrete points. At one end is pure physicality- mimes and clowns, for example. At the other end, there's people who aren't ever seen either by camera or eye, like many of us here.
I still think Serkis should have at least gotten an Oscar nomination for his work in LOTR. _________________ Corey "Vox Man" Snow
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Yes— acting is acting!
However, being a purist. . .
I think once your body is involved in the final production, whatever it is, it's gone beyond "voice acting" and you'd really have to call the performance "acting". _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Bob Bergen CM
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:41 am Post subject: |
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I say it's acting no matter how it's done or where it's presented. Acting is being truthful under imaginary circumstances. Whether by voice, body, stage, screen, sitcoms, soaps, acting is acting. |
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ccpetersen With a Side of Awesome

Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 3708 Location: In Coherent
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I don't see a distinction here.
What Bob said.
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Gregory Best The Gates of Troy

Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1853 Location: San Diego area (east of Connie and south and east of Bailey)
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Bob Bergen wrote: | Acting is being truthful under imaginary circumstances. |
I agree with Bob and love the accurate and yet simple definition of acting. _________________ Gregory Best
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jsgilbert Backstage Pass

Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 468 Location: left coast of u.s.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'll also say that there have been times when I've been in the booth and moved my body considerably more than I had in some on-camera or even theater roles. (more than many OTHER actors I've seen in film or theatrical presentations, as well)
The child who convinces his mother that he should stay home from school for a bad tummy is as valid an actor as any.
Perhaps with regards to mocap, we may look at adding certain requirements to the audition, such as "if you can't do a forward tumble, then don't bother auditioning". _________________ j.s. gilbert
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craigcrumpton Been Here Awhile
Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, that listverse list fails for not including character voice greats like Frank Welker, Daws Butler, June Foray and Jim Cummings (just to name a few).
And count me in with the "acting is acting" votes. One of the reasons "voice acting" has had a long, unfortunate stereotype for not being "real acting" (a common comment from on-camera actors, i.e. celebrity types) is because it's been treated like the red-headed stepchild of acting -- like somehow it's inferior to on-camera acting because it's "just the voice."
That's hogwash (or it would be except that hogs find this comment horribly insulting).
In truth, it just requires a different set of techniques and a different approach.
What Serkis did as Gollum for the LOTR Trilogy was only voice acting as it related to the video games where he reprised his role.
And incidentally, Serkis is actually as skilled in voice-only performance as he is on camera and the stage. I was greatly impressed with his performance as the title character in Focus on the Family's Radio Theatre production of "The Screwtape Letters." _________________ Publisher: Voice Actors in the News
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