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markt Been Here Awhile
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Gotta love the "Sandlot" reference though...I feel your pain Jason! _________________ "Dammit Jim, I'm a voice actor, not an audio engineer!"
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Dayo Cinquecento

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 544 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm with Kevin G on this - prefer the U87, but applying the same processing to both skews the result - especilly when you start limiting.
I've always thought the U87 is so popular because it gives you a sound that engineers can shape with relative ease.
Respect to the CAD though - it's a fab mic. _________________ Colin Day - UK Voiceover
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georgethetech The Gates of Troy

Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1878 Location: Topanga, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:29 am Post subject: |
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I chose Mic 1 on first listen, but I hear things I like in both, depending on the need for the read to "cut" over music and FX tracks. I agree that the U87 may sound better on a Grace M101 or something else ultra-clean.
You geeks are right about not using limiter/hpf on a mic comparison test. However, keep in mind these tests are always in the context of a home studio user environment, so I think it's appropriate to do a limited amount. Graeme didn't edit out noise or use a noise gate here.
Would you process the two mics differently? Perhaps yes, but I still think the demonstration illustrates the tonal characteristic differences quite effectively. _________________ If it sounds good, it is good.
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I do like things in both mics:
For the CAD:
I like the robust low mids.
I like that there aren't any overplayed frequencies.
I like that it's 'dark' without sounding muddy.
It's a triumph that this mic can be made in Ohio and sold for under $500. It sounds good on anything (and yes, I've done sessions with various instruments as well).
For the Neumann:
I love the highs.
I love the pumped lows around 200 Hz
I love that the sound is so clean, open and 3D (but I only notice that on good headphones).
If I had both, I'd use the U87ai for spots/promos and the E100s for narration/long-form. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:17 am Post subject: |
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May I suggest keeping the U87ai for the body of work and the CAD for the pauses? The former should be latterly processed whereas the latter should be formerly processed!
The above at the ISA (1013mb), obviously. |
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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That's funny...but a brilliant idea since the CAD has the lowest self-noise at 3.7dBA! Speak into the Neumann, and keep the CAD open in channel #2 as a room tone mic.  _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
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graemespicer Been Here Awhile

Joined: 25 Feb 2012 Posts: 243 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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I want to thank everyone for playing along! It was fun, and I learned a lot. As always, I really appreciate the help and wisdom of all the smarty-pants here on VO-BB! _________________ Graeme Spicer
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Rob Ellis M&M

Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Hey Pilgrim, that's MR Smarty-Pants, thank you. |
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