VO-BB - 20 YEARS OLD!

SkinnyJohnny · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:10 am Post subject:

Hi Brian,
The booth looks great in person.
Thanks for the hospitality and listening to me ramble.
John
Oh yeah, I guess the headphone amp works!
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Hart · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:36 am Post subject:

It works great!

The more I work in the booth the more I realize how awesome it is now. I'm finding I have to do much less tweaking with EQ to get my voice where I want it in the mix. Here's an example featuring a couple different processing styles of my voice:

http://www.hartvoiceovers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/NewMusic2010_mixdown.mp3

I don't need to dip the EQ on the music and fx nearly as much. Way cool!
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SkinnyJohnny · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:03 am Post subject:

Sounds really good!!!
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Mike Sommer · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:28 am Post subject:

Awesomeness.
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Hart · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:44 am Post subject:

I was on my way to the post office and was listening to this and a few other recent endeavors. Holy cow they are bass heavy in the truck compared to my studio. That piece doesn't sound at all like it should in my truck. Too "thumpin." I had to doublecheck the sub woofer settings in the truck and make sure I hadn't bumped them. I need to work on that.

I LIKE selling stuff! The RE20 is gone and so is the Firebox so now I'm all set to go mic shopping. I keep looking around the studio wondering what else I can get rid of. Sarcastic

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Mike Sommer · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:14 am Post subject:

SkinnyJohnny · Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject:

I thought it was an effect you were going for. Yeah, it sounded bass heavy on my monitors too.
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Hart · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:18 am Post subject:

I think part of it was the multiband setting I used when I mastered. Punched up the bass too much.

Superchunks! Need more insulation but after reading about them I really want to build some. Sounds perfect.

Question for the peanut gallery: Do you guys want me to start a new thread for the bedroom conversion or leave it in this mammoth one so it's tied to the booth build?
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Mike Sommer · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:10 am Post subject:

Keep it together.
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Hart · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:21 am Post subject:

Here's the room.

Currently I've got the mix position facing the door/VO booth wall and my position is right about 38% of the room length and spaced a few inches off of center left to right. I've been debating changing that but I really like facing the door better.

Monitors are set so the tweeters are at ear height but the woofers are not midway between the floor and ceiling.

So I can do superchunks in the 3 corners. In the 4th corner with the door Ethan Winer suggests hanging panels on the the door and the wall next to it. He says it's almost as good as a corner bass trap. I suppose I could make a gobo or hinge something and attach it to the wall if necessary but I'd rather not . Lips Are Sealed

I plan to use the mirror trick to find the first reflection points and hang my first wall panels there - then space out on the wall from that point, correct? Roughly that gives me room for 3 floor to ceiling panels 2 feet wide each on each side wall spaced 2 feet apart. And that makes about a 50% coverage on each side wall. Should I go closer together for more coverage? That's easy enough to rearrange later too if I decide I need more.

Oops, baby bear just woke up. Gotta run.

I'll be hit and miss for the next 3 to 4 weeks starting Monday. Apparently there's a barn restoration project that just won't succeed without my expertise. What I suspect that really means is that they couldn't find anyone else dumb enough to climb around in the termite infested rafters.

EDIT: JD is eating breakfast so I've got more time to think.

Monitors. What do you guys like? I sold my Mackie 824's when we moved and I'm currently underserved with some Roland DM20's. Need some cash but I need an upgrade. I was looking at the Adam A7's along with the comparable Adam sub or perhaps going back to the Mackies. Something in that quality/price range anyway.

I'll try to find some time to take some pictures for you so you can see the current furniture layout. Basically, think L shaped desk. It's actually a small mixing desk, my rack and a folding table but I've got them in an L shape at the moment. I may move the folding desk to the rear wall though when I put in the corner traps.

The big furniture problem is a 4 drawer metal filing cabinet. My wife and I are having a "discussion" about that. It really needs to go but she says there's no where else in the house to put it. I've got to figure that one out. That big metal side throws the room off balance acoustically. Is it a terrible idea to put it in a corner and then build a "short" superchunk to fit where it meets the corner from floor to filing cabinet height, and then another to put on top of it in the true corner to the ceiling? Probably but it would save a marriage hassle if it's workable. Thoughts?

For the window: I've currently stuffed it with 6 inches of Auralex. Not very attractive. I don't need to worry with isolation, just reflections off the glass so I'm thinking 2 sets of heavy curtains (Blackout curtains with 100% folds) with a 2 or 3 inch air gap in between over the window should help. The curtains I've found would almost run floor to ceiling. Then what.. for the rear wall - some panels on either side of the window for absorption?

If I understand what I've read correctly I should concentrate on absorption on the front and rear walls because diffusion really isn't effective in a room this small. Is that right?

Well there you go. Way to much to think about on a Tuesday morning.
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Mike Sommer · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:17 am Post subject:

I would face the window, the reflection from the glass is not very nice, this way you can cover the rear wall completely; Bass Traps in the corners and a panel behind each speaker.

Though I don't know the room dimensions, spacing the panels a foot to two apart should be fine, along with panels at the refection points. Like I said before you don't need to kill this room just tame it. IF you have the ETF program http://www.acoustisoft.com/ you can run a baseline test of your room, then apply your treatment and test again to see what you need to do next.

For what we do I'm liking the KRK's the Adam's are a little bright for me. I also question the idea of a sub, it can color the mix to much- but that's just me.

Put the file cabinet in the garage.
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SkinnyJohnny · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject:

Hart · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:09 am Post subject:

I've worried about the Adams being bright from what I've read. I hate fatiguing monitors. On the other hand the main reason I sold my Mackies was because I found them to be too bass heavy. I loved how they sounded in studio but it didn't translate well outside. I'll take another look at the KRK's next time I'm in Mobile.

Put the file cabinet in the garage. I wish. It has to stay in the alarm monitored section of the house (wife = govt agent, etc) I've got an idea on this one though so I think I can get it moved out of here and still keep her happy.

Of course John's idea is brilliant! "No no it's not a plate verb it's um... a cabinet reverb effect. Yeah yeah, the latest thing." Laugh

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ballenberg · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:51 am Post subject:

Hart · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:15 am Post subject:

Trying to hard to be vague I guess.

Sometimes she brings her work home with her and we have to keep it locked up and secure.
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