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georgethetech · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:53 am Post subject:

Yep, all they have to do is treat the Source Connect computer like a separate appliance, like an ISDN codec. Rocket science? Ummm, no.
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georgethetech · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:55 am Post subject:

The latency certainly will increase, expect 1-2 seconds round trip all told.
But it is consistent, so if you are working to SOT the engineer can compensate for it with an offset in Pro Tools very easily.
If we can just get studios who are too paranoid to have a computer open to the Internet on their network to just install one for SC only, and use it like a hardware codec, things could be better for VO talent (and cheaper).
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tombrom · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:02 am Post subject:

I think ISDN will still be here for another 5 years....I have had SC for 3 or 4 years but only in last year have clients asked to use it. It works 98% as well as ISDN. A couple of times it "fizzled"....I don't know if that was my Sound Card or SC. Guessing it was SC. By fizzled it sort of slowly died out at the end of the sentence once or twice. To me the huge advantage SC has is that for international jobs it's free, while ISDN is at least a couple of dollars a minute..up to $8/min depending on your plan
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Steve Knight · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:49 am Post subject:

I can speak from personal experience that Source connect works fine,..but It MUST be set up correctly..It can be tricky, but fortunately they have good support people who can can get you up & running in short order..also DO NOT try to run SC off of a Wi-fi connection..

Tom Test · DC Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 629 Location: Chicago, IL

Oh this is SOOOO funny! I just came here now intending to start a new thread entitled "Please die, ISDN!!!!"

I have both ISDN and Source Connect. I live IN the city of Chicago, and pay well over $200/month for ISDN. I had 2 ISDN sessions scheduled for today, and have had occasional, strange, issues getting connected. Like, on the same day I can connect with Dave Immer, but cannot with a studio in NYC. So I replaced a phone cable that wasn't connecting properly, hoping that was my problem. I did a test connect with another talent yesterday (thanks again Peter Bishop!), and I needed to reboot once, but after that it was fine.

So today, I could not connect with a studio in Denver for my first session. Ugh. I tried rebooting several times (as did they), I tried calling them - no luck. Fortunately, they had Source Connect! Yay! Source Connect saved my bacon. We connected no problem and the session went great.

But I was very worried about the next ISDN session scheduled an hour later. I called ISDNbridge (it's Robert Marshall, one of the developers of SC) to see if he could set up a bridge if this next session went south (he could, at only $35/hour).

Amazingly, my next session was GREAT. No problem whatsoever connecting on the first try! This is a client in Oregon who I've worked with 5 or 6 times now over the past year or so. Every ISDN session has been fine, (except, notably, the one just before today). But this day, we were fine - even though I was NOT fine with the studio in Denver! No issues connecting whatsoever!

I did have frustrating issues getting SC configured, and it took the better part of a day to set it straight (network issues....). Since then, in my own experience, SC has been rock solid. Sadly, my ISDN has been anything but.

So now I'll need to contact my guru Dave Immer and see if I can get this thing sorted out. FWIW, Dave sent out an email blast a few weeks ago, saying that he was hearing more and more about talent having strange problems connecting with ISDN.

I was hoping to do a lot of political work this season, had the new demos in place, but frankly the unreliability of my ISDN kept me from trying to promote myself to out-of-state agencies. This is costing me lots of potential business, and I am pessimistic about the willingness of telcos to fix any possible line issues. They just do not want to invest any more in an obsolete technology (I can't blame them).

So please, DIE ISDN! Die a messy and sudden death. Long live Source Connect!
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Tom Test · DC Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 629 Location: Chicago, IL

Yes, Dan-O, I am. How did you guess (I shudder in anticipation of your reply...). Sprint is my long-distance carrier, fyi.
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Bish · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject:

Noooo... ISDN, please don't die! I've only just got you and we're having a wonderful time. Why, only this morning the phone rang with a new customer wanting a session (which is already done and dusted). I may only get to use you a couple of times a week, but you have become very dear to both me and my bank balance!

I'm still very surprised every time I hear the inconsistent tales of ISDN charges. Out here in (somewhat rural) Long Island, I'm paying $60 to Verizon, and $12 to Sprint for long distance... $72 per month total.

Like others, I expect it to be around for at least five more years. Probably eight to ten or more.
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Kim Fuller · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject:

Bish, just curious - what did you use before ISDN, since you've only recent acquired it. Did you use SC?

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Bish · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject:

Kim Fuller · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject:

That's the philosophy we'll be using, too...eventually... Smile

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Bruce · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:59 am Post subject:

Here's the thing I don't understand about these ISDN service rates...as far as I can tell it doesn't cost a lot to run them. They paid for all the lines and equipment ages ago. The technology hasn't changed. Regular long distance is now cheap or free because all the infrastructure is in place.

Why then is monthly ISDN service $30 or so in the UK, $60 in some parts of the US, $85 in Oregon (you including tax and fees Dan?) and ungodly for you AT&T sufferers.

Here's the real kicker for me. DW pays the bills so I don't see everything all the time. She asked if we could take advantage of Verizon's deal where you get a cellular version of your land line for just $20 a month. I asked why, when that's what we're paying for land lines. NO. It's $103 a month for two sets of frikkin' analog carrying copper wire to come in here. I'm paying more for analog than I am for ISDN!! Admittedly we don't have voicemail on the ISDN, but still!!!

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