VO-BB - 20 YEARS OLD!

Philip Banks · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:50 am Post subject:

If being in the booth keeps you away from the mic then that's a good thing. Clip one is clean and clear and that's all any sound engineer needs, anything else "dey got a plug-in fer dat".

Darren Altman · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:12 am Post subject:

Hey Rob,

they both sound fine to me. Clip 2 has more life to it, but clip one sounds more focussed. I guess that as long as you don't have any sound bleeding or ambient noise coming through, it's up to you to decide which one is preferable.

I've done national tv commercials from my old upstairs office, which duvets hanging on the wall and windows that let the birds tweets come through, on a $200 mic! But once you get a clean sound, with no room reverb or ambient noise, as Philip said, that's all producers want.
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Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

Wow great feedback. Thanks all!

Bill Campbell · DC Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 621

I like the more natural sound of take two. It always sounds odd to not hear the natural reflections you hear in everyday conversation, as long as it doesn't sound like an empty, hollow room.

I'd record in the space that allows you to get your best performance.
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Mike Sommer · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:28 am Post subject:

What mice you used for this? If you're using a shotgun, we're not getting the true sonic image of the room.

I didn't want to point it out but there was a lot of plosives popping in these files. Microphone technic is going to be your friend, you're also to close.
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Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

The mic was a Gefell M930. I've been trying to get away from using a pop filter but if I come out of the booth may go back to one since the sound will be "live-er"

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

Okay here are some pictures

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Mike Sommer · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject:

It would be best if it goes to 0, but 30 is as low as some consumer models go. If your getting readings above 50dB then you have some work to do. You'll be amazed at what 50 dB's is. What we a looking for are your peak noises. Use C weighting when taking measurements.

The nice thing about Radio Shack is there liberal return policy.

Looking at you pictures this room has some challenges, but I thnk we can over come them. I don't see any images of the wall that your booth is on.

What is the area were the blue curtain?
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Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

Here is where the booth is
The blue curtain is the doorway. Obviously I would need to install a door.
So far according to my meter, I'm not getting any ambient noise at the 50 db level

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Mike Sommer · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:43 pm Post subject:

Is that reading with everything on in the house such as AC/Heater, showers/water running, the TV -Hi Fi, lawn mower/ lowers, Anything that makes sound??
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Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

I think basically what I need to do is install soundproof windows and a soundproof door.

There's no question that low flying planes and Harleys can be heard...in fact the Harleys even creep into my vocal booth a little.

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

Would it be possible to stay in booth and "liven" it up with pictures, mirrors, etc. (I already have one mirror hanging in it)

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

You know, the more I compare and experiment, the more I think I like the
sound of the booth better.

Mike Sommer · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:20 am Post subject:

Rob, I think you think to much.

Either with the booth or the room, you're pretty good. The booth at most is only giving you 25 to 30 dB's of noise reduction, no more than a standard door.

If this is the case, and the sound (noise) is coming from your windows, you would only need to add storm windows to the window units you already have (1/4" thick laminated).
Or add the glass to the inside of the window opening. if you do this, step it up to 1/2" laminated glass, this would give you a sound reduction of about 40 db's.

You could add insulation to the attic, and if your walls are not insulated, blowing in cellulose will do a lot to knock down the sound (interior walls too).

If you stay in the booth adding glass is just will create problems, especially in such a small space.

Honestly the booth is fine, your room sounds good too, you just need to kill the computer fan noise.

I just think you're over thinking stuff here. STOP.

The only real thing you need to improve is your mic technique, that's your greatest problem at the moment.
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