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BenWils
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got the deep voice....it comes through on the 416 as it does on the Neumann....just a bit clearer on the raw audio end of things with the 416 but also comes the sibilance when over compressed and over processed. The main draw with the 416 indeed.

I would say you have too much of a steep angle on the mic. And you are clamping the M600 too close to the front where all the off axis rejection occurs because of those vent/grill deals on the mic. I would say clamp the mic on more toward the back. See what that does for the sound.

Just some suggestions.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just thought I would mention that Claymation is in fact a service mark...where as Kleenex and Q-tips are trade marks.

I'm just saying.







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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mic position - For VO work it should be in the same room as the VO but that depends on the VO, in some cases in the same room is fine as long as the MKH416 is disconnected. Assuming a certain level of ability (big assumption, I know)The non XLR end of the mic should be pointing at the mouth of the (voice) approximately. Distance - There is writing on the mic, if the artist is able to read it, he is too close.

Sweet spot - The twinkle in Elisa Canas'eyes, the mic doesn't have one it's all up to the VO.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, if you put 170 Kleenex over the mic and I put 17 Q-tips in my ears, that is when you will hit the sweet spot. Ohhh.....just kidding. I just wanted to bring this whole thing back around with the Kleenex and Q-tips. The joke would have been better if I told it in stop frame animation.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

even better in Claymation. Smile
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Lance Blair
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BenWils wrote:
You've got the deep voice....it comes through on the 416 as it does on the Neumann....just a bit clearer on the raw audio end of things with the 416 but also comes the sibilance when over compressed and over processed. The main draw with the 416 indeed.

I would say you have too much of a steep angle on the mic. And you are clamping the M600 too close to the front where all the off axis rejection occurs because of those vent/grill deals on the mic. I would say clamp the mic on more toward the back. See what that does for the sound.

Just some suggestions.


These are good suggestions for the 416 in general, although often in field audio work the steep-angle is the best way to go. But I'd definitely try moving the clamp to the back.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the main question is do you like what you got Philip? I thought the raw wav sounded pretty darn clean and your voice sounds great with that mic. I bet it will mix in well and cut through (as they are known to do) with music and efx on spots and trailers.

I don't use a pop screen or muff on mine. If you haven't already done so I think on VOUniverse Beau Weaver has some video on Beau Knows that shows his set up as he delivers on a 416.

Sound purchase for you I think!
btw. what's a huttie?
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Diane Maggipinto
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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even better in Claymation.


with gumby and pokey
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or Davey and Goliath.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee,

Oh, I loved Davey and Goliath when I was a kid! Smile
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Moe Egan
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too! Every so often when something goes wrong I'll say "God doesn't love us anymore Davey." I get the stangest looks Rolls Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moe Egan wrote:
I get the stangest looks Rolls Eyes


No kidding!!!!!! Laugh
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Threadjack! The episode where Davey wishes he was the only person on the planet gives me the chills (or as David Foster Wallace once wrote, "the howling fantods").
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

Banksey! You are too kind!
I've gotta say, that Zone Horror audio chilled me to the very core!! I nearly jumped behind my sofa!! Devil

Elisa x
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elisa,

Welcome to the VO-BB!
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