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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the cardboard idea one step further and pin the foam to foam core. Lightweight, easy to move.

Although, I don't have treated walls in my office studio in the sense of foam everywhere, I do have woven and quilted hangings which help a lot. My ceiling is wood paneling and beams... So, the mic-in-the-box idea works quite well.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diane Maggipinto wrote:
unless one wants a very temporary solution or they're inserted into sheet rock that has give. mine does not. Cry


Mine have been in place for nearly five years without a hiccup... but you are right... the surface has to be something that will allow you to push the pins into place (sheet rock in my case) so regrettably one size does not fit all Cry
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have taken foam and mounted it to vinyl lattice (Home Depot or Lowes).



I usually cut the lattice into 2x2' squares, but have a couple of 2x4' pieces also. The lattice can then be mounted like a picture frame on the wall.

A very portable solution.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow - i guess i'm not very creative. i just gummed it all up there with liquid nails.

i hope the people that buy my house (some day) like gray auralex.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I did too, Todd, with my first crop of foam. Two years ago. I thought maybe this time I would give it more thought. As with everything, there are many opinions. Interesting how many people are thinking of their setups as temporary or at least evolving.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh - i completely agree - i wish i had thought that far ahead.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just put up a bunch of foam in my studio/office - I used a staple gun - on drywall walls - just a couple of staples in the top of each 2x4 sheet of foam - or two in the top of each 1x1 square - I've rearranged some pieces already, and just used needle nose pliers to grasp the staple out so it didn't do damage to the foam. The piece on the ceiling took more staples though Rolls Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

christi--can you make a pie that looks like that? mmmmm ... pie.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I have learned about some adhesives is that over time, or in shorter time, depending on the chemical make up of the adhesive and how it reacts with the substrate (foam or whatever it's sticking to), certain adhesives can dissolve the foam or compromise it at best, and studio foam is pretty pricey stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbinbeamo wrote:
certain adhesives


Care to name names?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No not really. When we ran our sign & graphics business, we learned about adhesives the hard and expensive way. But I believe you could test the adhesive on a small portion of foam, and you'd be able to see fairly quickly whether or not it deteriorates. Buena Suerte.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my studio foam direct from the manufacturer and he recommended using a water based glue which in the UK has a trade name of Uhu. I guess the same or a similar product will be available in the US. Use at your own discretion and make sure its right for your type of foam.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCM-I wasn't being elusive about not naming names of "certain adsives", because I couldn't recall the names of those that created failure to foam products we installed and later had to re-make and thus re-install. One thing that did not work was any water-based adhesive, but we were putting things up that had much more weight than studio foam. Another good product we found at the Home Depot was 3M's 77 spray adhesive, which I suspect may be similar to the Auralex Foamtak. BUT- I would definitely perform a test first. Hook and loop velcro may also work OK in smaller spaces. Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have used 3M's && spray with great results --- spray both surfaces and make sure you have it where you want it when you stick it down - 'cause it ain't movin' once it's stuck.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulletin from the front: the adhesive on velcro lasts about 15 minutes on painted cement walls. Then, if you put it back up, it lasts less than 5 minutes. Then, less than 2 and a half minutes. Unfortunately Zeno's paradox does not work here either - eventually it doesn't stay on at all.
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