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Lee Gordon · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:37 am Post subject:

Yeah, I would use Source Connect just as Source Connect. If I replace the ISDN, it would be with ipDTL. I wish it were possible to port my SPIDs to the ipDTL service, rather than using the L.A. ones they assign you. I hate to give up 236-2001 and 236-2002, not that it really makes any difference.
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Moe Egan · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:24 am Post subject:

My ISDN lines are dirt cheap (less than $100/month)- so I'm keeping it, but I can count on one hand the number of ISDN sessions I've had since the Rona hit. However- I also only got rid of my home's landline telephone three years ago...so, there's that.
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melissa eX · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:34 am Post subject:

My ISDN lines are cheap as well - $100 month. Haven't used them since Covid hit. Haven't decided what to do. I'll wait to see how the rest of the year plays out. In any case, if I do drop them I'm going to keep my (212) numbers.
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Frank F · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:48 am Post subject:

This topic brings up an interesting question. With the advent of C-19 and all the issues we see related with the "bugs", why is there not MORE work being done via ISDN (and other related tools)?

I mean, advertisers have not stopped advertising, some videos are still being made, trailers are still being created (mainly for TV videos), radio and TV promos have not stopped being created, animation has not stopped, marketing audio and video has not been curtailed, etc. Where has the studio quality audio via remote locations been mis-directed?

TV and radio people are doing work from home via the likes of Zoom, Skype, and other WebRTC products with "dubious" results - where has the quality level gone?

Just asking....

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Bish · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:57 am Post subject:

Lee Gordon · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:04 am Post subject:

It seems to me that there is more work being done with Source Connect, less with ISDN. That could largely be due to the fact that so many studios had to close their doors, at least to on-premises talent. And the installed base of studios is mainly what drives the demand for ISDN. I suspect that the engineers from many of those studios suddenly found themselves having to do their mixing remotely from home. Same goes for all the talent who previously had to go to a studio to do their ISDN sessions. So many of those people, especially in the big markets, who had never done so before, had to set up to work from home, and it is likely that they couldn't get ISDN installed even if they wanted it. But they all probably have internet connections and things like Source Connect and ipDTL are readily available. I'm guessing that of all the available options, Source Connect is the one most of the studios have opted for.
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Frank F · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:26 pm Post subject:

Bish: Two words: Boat Anchor.

Lee: Then where is/are the quality levels? Source Connect/IPdtl and the like tout quality though I do not hear it in today's work ethic.

I see several national talk shows anchors working from home on Zoom - and the quality (both audio and video) suck. Another newsie organization uses Skype, a celebrated talk show has become so bad that the anchor people are actually doing the switching (camera selection, etc.) via Wirecast, OBS Studio or even Zoom. But then again, I do not watch much television.

Interesting isn't it?

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Lizden · Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:26 pm Post subject:

I'm in the same boat as Ex, Bish & Moe: about $87 per month.
Everytime I say..."OK, time to dump the lines"...I get a call for it.
So..not yet.
Although no call for it since the pandemic.

I also have Source Connect and ipDTL, so just another tool in the toolbox for now.
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Bruce · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:44 pm Post subject:

melissa eX · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:33 am Post subject:

Because big time folks never had to know any of this. They never had to know that they had to know anything, so they don't even know there's something missing that they don't know. They just know they went into work and talked into the mic and now they're doing the same thing from home. The rest of it? The fact that environment makes a difference in the sound? How it makes a difference? What "reflections" are? Or a pillow fort? Or that a towel is anything other than something to dry themselves with? Anything else? Not in their consciousness, nor anywhere near it.

todd ellis · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:31 am Post subject:

i was going to say because they don't give a s#!t ... but X said it better.
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Lee Gordon · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:03 am Post subject:

Bruce · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:48 am Post subject:

Yeah. but this was a "Dateline" type show with network reporters who should know better. Whatever.

I still remember having a polite disagreement with a sound editor on the movie "Lightning Jack". They needed me to drive down to Tucson from Phoenix to redo my one, lonely line. Too much other noise during an action sequence I guess. They had me in a sound studio with some sound deadening. The scene was shot outdoors with me at least 15 feet away from camera in an alley way, announcing we had shot some notorious bank robbers. I back up from the mic a bit to sound a bit like I'm yelling, which I did in the original shot. I at least got a bit of bounce off of the hard surfaces. He gave me a hard time for trying to recreate exactly what I'd done. "You don't have to yell and you don't have to back off the mic". Sheesh.

It's been ages since I've seen that bit, but I remember thinking at the time my "big line" came out meh.

Oh well.

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