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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:34 am    Post subject: Info On A New Microphone Reply with quote

Here's an interesting read from Paul Strikwerda on a new mic:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked it... quite a bit.... but I've got 4 mics as it is... all pretty decent.



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hadn't heard what actually happened when Samsung gutted the best legacy parts of their purchase aside from Soundcraft, whose consoles I have one of...
... I hope Austrian makes it fly.

Here's a further in-depth look at AA's mic in question
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/austrian-audio-oc818-oc18
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woah, that C818 is WILD, man!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the OC18 sounded really bad. It is very harsh. Especially with his ch and h sounds. And the sibilance...gross.

It isn't as smooth and natural as that Gefell.

I'm surprised it has so many favorable comments. With my every day engineering ears I just hated it. It makes me immediately think "What can I do with EQ to fix that?!" Which is a really bad start...at any price.

I'll hard pass that thing. And I'm a gear fiend and am always looking for and rooting for the new kid on the block.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yarg28 wrote:
I thought the OC18 sounded really bad. It is very harsh. Especially with his ch and h sounds. And the sibilance...gross.

It isn't as smooth and natural as that Gefell.


The Gefell sounds significantly better to me, too. Though I don't think the AA mic sounds bad; to me, it just pales in comparison with the Gefell.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last mic I tested was a Gefell UMT70s FET. I swore if my 416 ever broke down I would buy that Gefell. Just perfect. It cut like the 416, but wasn't as harsh on the ears over extended periods of listening. Closer to a U87, except that it still worked well in a small booth.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan-O wrote:
The last mic I tested was a Gefell UMT70s FET. I swore if my 416 ever broke down I would buy that Gefell. Just perfect. It cut like the 416, but wasn't as harsh on the ears over extended periods of listening. Closer to a U87, except that it still worked well in a small booth.


Me too. I'm thinking about picking one up for exactly those reasons.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a special trip to Vintage King to trial a Gefell UMT70s and walked out without it.

It sounds incredible on most people but for me, it just wasn't quite where I wanted it.

I was disappointed but better than wasting money. It really is a great mic and I keep thinking I'll try one again sometime.

I've almost pulled the trigger on the U87 a few times but I'm in a 4x6 booth and I've heard it's unhappy in "small" booths. I don't really know if 4x6 is considered a "small booth" or not. Sure doesn't seem big to me but I know some people try to operate in much smaller spaces.

Of course, I have a 416 that I thought would be the answer but for whatever reason, it's just not great for me.

It's like I'm cursed...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yarg28 wrote:
I made a special trip to Vintage King to trial a Gefell UMT70s and walked out without it.


I enjoy going to VK but I can't tell what something is going to sound like from their testing booth. They're fine with you buying a mic and taking it home, testing it, and returning it if it doesn't work out. This is not terribly convenient, but I have found that for actually seeing how something will perform for me in my studio, it's a nice option.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try a U87 in Figure-8 in a small booth, you might be surprised...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

georgethetech wrote:
Try a U87 in Figure-8 in a small booth, you might be surprised...


interesting. I was under the impression that a figure 8 would be horrible in a booth.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That’ll be $20 for the advice, $3,600 for the microphone.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update on the Gefell UMT70S:

I've had one now since November. I bought it from VK since they allow you to test at home with a generous return policy (which I've taken advantage of in the past).

The short of it is: I really like this mic. It is an LCD that actually sounds good in a small (5x4) booth. I've had (and sold) a U87ai, which sounded lousy in my small room (in fact, I've never heard a U87 that worked in anything less than a large space, in which case they are magnificent); I tried a Bock iFet last Fall as well that also suffered from that boxy sound.

If you're looking for an LCS that will actually sound good in a booth, the Gefell is worth a looksee. I still use my 416 90% of the time, but I love having the Gefell for longer pieces and some commercial reads.
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