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Moosevoice
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 7:52 am    Post subject: Did I shortchange myself? Reply with quote

I voiced a series of web videos for a major brand. Through an agency.
My sister-in-law said she saw one of the finished videos play before something she was watching on Facebook.
However, when I did the gig I was told they were for videos that would reside on the brand's website.
There was no mention of these being used for ads but the contract makes it seem like they COULD be.
I'm wondering if you guys could give it a glance and confirm or deny that I signed away the ad rates on these, please?


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In consideration of the engagement as an actor/voice actor/announcer, I accept the sum of $ X as compensation for my session fee and use.

I hereby grant to film/record me and to use or publish my likeness, silhouette, voice and any other musical or other sound effects produced by me in scenes which I may be included, in whole or in part, without restriction as to changes, lengths or alterations.

USE RIGHTS: Unlimited Internet, VO tags.

Any image or voice recording taken of me is owned by the Client. No advertisement, Commercials or other material need be submitted to me for approval and Agency and Client shall have no liability to me for any use of my performance and/or voice recording in accordance with this agreement.

Nothing herein will constitute any obligation on the part of Client to exercise any of the above rights.

I acknowledge and agree that I am being engaged by Client and performing services for Client hereunder as a non-union performer and not under any union or guild agreement. As such, my total compensation in connection with my services performed and rights granted herein shall be the compensation set forth in paragraph 1and 3 hereof.

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Jen Gosnell
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It reads to me like you granted unlimited online use without any need for prior approval by you. :(
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what it looks like. I just wanted to make sure.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We who do this for a living have determined that there are web videos, web commercials, and pre-rolls, and they are all worth different amounts. The rest of the industry is slower to come to this thinking and believe it’s all just Internet. Thank you for sharing this and helping us all to negotiate more carefully in the future.


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Unlimited Internet


Yup. That's the killer.
As said above, WE have to be the guardians of our value.

Give `em the pinky and they take the whole arm, as they say in Germany.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been trying to get into the habit of asking if Internet use includes paid-placement (pre-roll, paid social media ads, etc).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

short answer = Yes
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