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anthonyVO 14th Avenue
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: do NOT let your domain expire |
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vic44139 Guest
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: |
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I feel for you brother...Simular thing happened to me a couple years ago. I owned VICTORHARRIS.COM right...I missed one friggen month after it expired cause I was in Iraq...next thing I know someone down in Dallas owns it and has it parked with nothing on it. I ended up having to go the dot net route. |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Aren't there laws against cyber-squatting on someone's name domain?
I wish we had a lawyer hip to net-working on this board.
Let me ask around. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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dhouston67 VO-BB Intarwebz Glossary Administrator

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 1166 Location: Right next door to Sandra Bullock. No, really.
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My ideal domain name (davidhouston dot com) is owned by an identically-named, fairly serious singer-songwriter based in San Francisco.
He's had it for years and updates it regularly; I don't think there's much chance I'll ever be able to grab it from him. _________________ Great Voice. Great Choice. For Voice Talking and stuff.
http://davidhoustonvoice.com
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anthonyVO 14th Avenue
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Frank F Fat, Old, and Sassy

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 4421 Location: Park City, Utah
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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I might just add that cyber-squatting is not against the law - yet. Many companies are doing just that and making BIG bucks off it.
My ideal name is "thevoice.com". I own the trademark to "The Voice", so I decided - why not? It's a great name for my site...
It has been squatted for several years. (Now it is some Form Filing system or a contest site - that has yet to run a contest). I own the trademark to "TheVoice", so I decided - why not? It's a great name for my site...
So I decided, how about "frankthevoice.com" - again cyber-squatted. I contacted the squatter - lo and behold - he would sell it to me for $3800.00 USD, the compnay was out of a foreign country. I didn't bite.
Lawyers are not of much help as the internet is global and un- (for the most part) regulated. It's a first come first serve basis. The internet is the enteprenuers dream in many ways.
Protect your brand, protect your image and enjoy what you have. Someone else may think they can make money by selling your own name back to you.
Toodles
Frank F _________________ Be thankful for the bad things in life. They opened your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to before. email: thevoice@usa.com |
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anthonyVO 14th Avenue
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Frank F Fat, Old, and Sassy

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 4421 Location: Park City, Utah
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, another ineffective federal law. see: http://www.keytlaw.com/urls/acpa.htm
Although this 'law" sounds like it has teeth, it is limited to just the USA. Thus negating it's reach from foreign cyber-squatters.
Additionally, the legal 'hoops' one needs go thorugh can be more grueling than the damage it would casue to just let it the domain name go off into the netherworld.
Re-brand, revise, or re-work seems to be the magic words for domain names that are lost to squatters.
Toodles
Frank F _________________ Be thankful for the bad things in life. They opened your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to before. email: thevoice@usa.com |
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anthonyVO 14th Avenue
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TheVoiceOfBob 14th Avenue

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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Deirdre wrote: | Aren't there laws against cyber-squatting on someone's name domain?
I wish we had a lawyer hip to net-working on this board.
Let me ask around. |
There are some laws, yes. Take it from me, I know a bit about it, since I bought www.charlottebobcats.net before the team did! Yes, I did receive a nasty letter in the mail from the NBA. I still have a copy of it. Yes I did get phone calls from the team attorney.
I still own it. _________________ Try to imagine a world where there is no such thing as hypothetical situations.
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Someone has bought up popular men's names and an initial-- I went to try to get DylanG . com for my son and the SAME BUNCH seems to have all the "DylanX" domains.
Screw them.
I hate that. I suppose it's good ol' entrepreneurialism, but I hate being rooked for a domain name. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Hart Assistant Asylum Chief

Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 2107 Location: Foley, AL
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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yeah. My name .com has been taken ever since I was savvy enough to look up ownership (mid 90's maybe?). Owned by the same dude (another Brian H) but he's never put a site up on it. I would really like to have it but he never lets it expire. I've thought about asking him to sell it to me, but I imagine if I asked he'd envision big bucks. _________________ Hart Voice Overs Blog
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glittlefield M&M

Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 2039 Location: Round Rock, TX
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, I've seen it happen too many times, Anthony.
Renew early and renew often.
Of course, my domain used to belong to someone else, but it was expired for a year (I think) when I picked it up.
In other news, vodka.com just sold for $3 million...
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jrodriguez315 A Hundred Dozen

Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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I wanted to buy my name but when I tried to get it I found this:
JoeRodriguez.com is for sale!
To purchase this domain contact BuyDomains,
the domain experts, at ***-***-**** (number changed to protect the innocent).
It was going to expire in July of this year and I tried to snag it but the guy renewed. Oh well. I might try again next year. _________________ Joe Rodriguez, Bilingual Voice Actor | The Voiceover Thespian Blog |
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brianforrester Backstage Pass

Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 492 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:58 am Post subject: |
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jrodriguez315 wrote: | It was going to expire in July of this year and I tried to snag it but the guy renewed. Oh well. I might try again next year. |
Joe, if I may make a suggestion regarding this outfit... move on!
They will not let the name expire (especially if you've already contacted them about purchasing it), and if you do attempt to purchase it from them, I would hazard a guess that the lowest rate you will be offered is no less than $1500USD... They have a couple of names that I attempted to register a couple of years ago (for another company that I own), and they have been pretty consistent in their solicitation e-mails and "great deals on the domain name YOU want!" The initial purchase fee for one of the domains that I wanted was $3800 and the last "special offer" that I received was for $1500... definately a significant reduction, still a bit too rich for my blood...
The nice thing about living in Canada (at least as it pertains to the internet) is that I can snag the exact domain with .ca and there are very few companies snatching .ca names and holding them, hah!!! take that Mr. Domain name hog!!! hmph... that was interesting!
Yeah, what Anthony said... DO NOT LET YOUR DOMAIN NAME EXPIRE!!! And if you do plan on letting it expire, would be so kind as to let me know so that I can register it and then sell it back to you for a terribly sickening profit
**Edit**
I just checked the domain name and it's only being sold for $488... that seems crazy cheap compared to the "special offer" that I recieved. I guess I stand corrected on my above comments!
Cheers,
Brian _________________ Brian Forrester Voice Overs
www.brianforrester.com
brian@brianforrester.com
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