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MY CAD E100S STORY
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bransom
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hoping my issues are just isolated problems and/or growing pains. I'd really like to see them succeed.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be VERY VERY quiet..... I am hunting wabbie100sts.
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Tom Test
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a mic shootout here awhile back that involved 6 mics (I think), ranging from a modded AKG200 to the CAD e100s to a modded Rode NTK to a Senn 416 to a Gefell M930. Look it up - the sound files are still online.

I never much liked my CAD e100s. I know I'm definitely in the minority. But overall, the CAD got as much love from listeners are the 930 and the 416. A mic I picked up more recently that I'm really digging is the Kel HM-2D. Nice big beefy sound when you need that sort of thing, like for the narration for a motorcycle company I did recently. In general, I much prefer my 416 for broadcast, my M930 for long-form narration, and the HM-2D when I need that sound.

For MY voice, in MY booth, through MY signal chain, of course...
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Lance Blair
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I consulted with a local talent and he bought the E100s from B&H. It showed up with the rubber for the suspension mount snapped. Fortunately there are spares inside.

I would not recommend CAD products to anyone anymore. If they really don't care about their customers (and they don't) then we shouldn't support them. There's a reason why they've never become a big name despite having very good products. They just don't get it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: With no word or warning, a replacement CAD E100S showed up by UPS on Friday. The replacement appears to be brand new and it sounds great. All's well that ends well. More or less.
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sdaeley17
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:26 am    Post subject: Cad e100s Reply with quote

Noooooo! I'm so sorry to hear that, Lance; I know you were one of the CAD's greatest proponents. I'm still considering it as my first analog mic, but my confidence is definitely shaken after your post and the note about its sensiivity to ambient noise, which is what made it such an attractive option in the first place! ( my japanese apartment is not an ideal recording space; my current solution is a porta-booth plus, which is amazing for what it is, but i was hoping the cad would complement that setup rather than be a hindrance.)

I'm wondering if experiences like the ones you mentioned are why sweetwater doesn't carry any cad products....
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Scott Pollak
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what I recommend to anyone considering ANY mic:

- There are simply too many variables in another person's situation for you to make a truly informed decision until you try it (no matter what the mic is). You don't have the same voice, the same acoustics, the same audio chain, etc. Unless you've simply read nothing but horrible reviews about a mic, just try it if you think it might be a good fit. You can always turn around and re-sell it. I have never, ever lost a penny reselling a mic, and I've sold quite a few that I had high hopes for, but they didn't work for me.

Personally, my E100s is my alltime fav and I'm finding I'm using it more and more. This is one mic I will never get rid of.

But................... you won't know until you try it.
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Ed Fisher
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lance Blair wrote:
So, I consulted with a local talent and he bought the E100s from B&H. It showed up with the rubber for the suspension mount snapped. Fortunately there are spares inside.

I would not recommend CAD products to anyone anymore. If they really don't care about their customers (and they don't) then we shouldn't support them. There's a reason why they've never become a big name despite having very good products. They just don't get it.


Ever since I read this I have been biting my lip. Although I have GREAT respect for Lance's opinions and expertise, the logic of it all escapes me. So here is a company that has an amazing sounding little mic that I can pick up brand new for 350-400 dollars. But, because of some customer service issues, we should not do business with them? Then I think about "Who will REALLY be hurt the most?" Will the company suffer more because I have deprived them of the profits from my mic purchase? Or, will I suffer more, because I don't have a inexpensive killer little mic that puts it's arms around me and kisses me right on the mouth?

Am I so interested in punishing this company that I would be willing to deprive... myself?

Although I understand the concept of "supporting good companies" with your dollars. It is a more personal "support" (the kind that puts the occasional beer in MY refrigerator) that concerns me more.

Just one man's random thoughts.
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Bish
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an interesting point. With me, the bottom line is always driven by pragmatism. Principles are great, and we should all have lines... but if we all boycotted companies with bad customer service (which I will agree, is an ideal) then none of us would have phones from AT&T or Verizon (etc.) who seem to pride themselves on price-fixing, gouging and minimal/bad customer service.

Sending a message is a great ideal... but at what cost?
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Lee Gordon
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way back when I first became aware of the Lay's Potato Chips "Bet You Can't Eat Just One" ad campaign, I issued myself a personal challenge: to take them up on theirs. So I munched a solitary Lay's Potato Chip and have never knowingly consumed another*. It was not a protest of any kind, and I am quite sure the company has felt no effect whatsoever on it's bottom line. I have just acted upon the principal that an advertiser can't challenge me like that and expect me to stand by and do nothing, although that is, in fact, what I have done. Rolls Eyes

*Does not apply to Ruffles, Fritos, Cheetos, or any other Frito-Lay product that does not carry the Lay's™ brand.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:39 am    Post subject: Cad e100s Reply with quote

Scott and Clutter,

Thank you both so much for the sage advice, and reminding us all that it's not the end of the world if we get a bunk mic. The road to the perfect sound is not free of mistakes, and even if we get something that's servicable, the desire to tweak and improve that sound is everpresent (whether you're a gearhead, a perfectionist, or both.). I think I will give the cad a chance, because it sounds like the best bang for my budget, and cross my fingers that the qc at amazon japan will provide a psychological buffer, if nothing else.

Thank you Lee for the great laugh! I needed that! And thanks everyone for makin the vo-bb the invaluable resource it is!

Sean
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:46 am    Post subject: My CAD e100s story Reply with quote

Hey folks,
I'm in a bit of a quandry...I have one of these waiting for me to pick up at my local Guitarcenter which originally came from an Austin TX Guitarcenter second-hand for $274. I had to pay s&h to get it to my local Guitarcenter (no free s&h on used merch) - fine, I figured that it was worth it for one of these. After taxes and s&h, it's still $305 - $54 less than the lowest price I've seen anywhere. Here's the kicker -

Before I initiated the purchase, I phoned the Austin, TX store to ask if it came in it's original box. The guy at their Pro Audio dept. told me that it did. I've been tracking this baby on UPS every day on its way here, and found it curious that the shipping weight measured in at just 2 lbs. When I went there to pick it up, I discovered that it was NOT shipped with its box. I informed the guy at my Guitarcenter of my disappointment at being told it did, only to find that it didn't. Of course, I didn't blame him, and did not throw a fit. Not only do I have prior experience in customer service, but I'm also a clergyman, and getting upset at this local guy when he's not to blame serves no purpose. BUT I WANT THIS MICROPHONE!!! OH - THE HUMANITY! Angry

Anyway, I can take it home for the 30 day trial period, but I really want the sweet box these things come in. I told the guy that if they can't retrieve the box, I'll want to negotiate the price down further. I wonder if that rep at CAD mentioned upthread would be able to ship me a box for it?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on how poorly they are responding to customer and dealer requests at CAD lately, don't expect anything... I had a DOA e100s arrive and it took over a month to get an RMA to ship it back. They are so overwhelmed there, thanks to all the buzz about this mic.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got off of the phone with my guy over at my local Guitar Center. He told me that the Guitar Center in Austin TX found the box, and that I should be expecting a phone call from them. This has to be about the weirdest transaction I have taken part in in a long while!
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Bish
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad that was resolved... I bought one of those really nice CAD boxes (sweet, real wood) and got a really fine mic with it. Funny thing is, I use the mic all the time, and the box is just gathering dust Smile
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