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A little market research: What would you pay for this?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This mixer will have to do.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sold.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pam wrote:
Still in the dark about aux. Something like "mic plug here" or "codec here" or "on button stoopid" would work.


Think of "Aux" as a second output where you choose what audio to put there.

BTW George, 299- 349 seems to sound like a fair price for what you are asking...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, a fair price for a unit that features:
1- Flexible but super easy to use mixer
2- Phone hybrid
3- Audio interface
4- Very clean mic preamp
5- Automatic monitor muting switch (like in a broadcast console)
6- Years of trouble-free use

Is $350?!

Hmmm... Mike Sommer may be right.
Clearly this thing won't be built by my Dad in his basement, or by anyone in North America.
But, you never know what manufacturer might be visionary enough to take this project on...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My initial price range was predicated on the fact that I've spent over $500 on the separate pieces of equipment necessary to cover that feature list, and much of my equipment is entry-level at best. The cost for the features described would be a bargain at $500- especially with a decent preamp.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The custom case will cost $100.00

As far as a preamp would go, instead of reinventing the wheel, one could use one that can be cloned like a Quad 8, it's small powerful and very nice. Or just leave it out
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: A little market research: What would you pay for this? Reply with quote

soundgun wrote:
A little market research: How much would you pay for a mixing console designed specifically for VO...


While most would not use it, add an insert for each input.

An on board DA with individual trims would allow all the devices, hybrid, isdn, etc to be feed all the time. A single return with button selection for
which device might work.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say that $650 to $700 would be a great cost for all those things. I mean, jeez, a Grace m101 costs like $550 by itself.

And I totally want inserts.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad's price still sounds great--That's a lotta functionality, George
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hope it's accompanied by the friendly user guide George's Mixer For Dummies

Also, it would have to be disabled on powder days (a sad shortage this season so far)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad Venable wrote:
I say that $650 to $700 would be a great cost for all those things. I mean, jeez, a Grace m101 costs like $550 by itself.


The Grace is a simple preamp, with about a $50 worth of wholesale parts and they crank them out by the thousands.

When talking about a custom mixer from scratch, this is not a weekend project. I know guys that do this for a living that spend weeks months getting it to work. Every time you add a feature it adds another layer of complexity, and the possibility of noise.

When you start talking about "cheap" 4 or 5 channel mixers form folks like Yamaha, Mackie and the like, you're talking about mixers that have not changed in 10 years or more because it adds major cost to the units.

I've been thinking about this for a long time, and to get where one would need to be in terms of functionality, for the specific need of VO would require a a great deal of investment.

Custom gear comes with a custom price, and $2000 is not unreasonable in the world of custom electronics. As a matter of fact that would be just a start.

For an example: An LA2A compressor is built by hand, it takes a one man 4 to 6 hours to build one in the traditional point to point tube method. It took me a week, after spending a 5 days collecting all the parts.

To get a mixer of this sort out, would require a major manufacturer to do it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...or you could just get one of these

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Konnekt6desk/

mixer
interface
pre (excellent)
monitor controller
headphone amp
output to phone hybrid

This the the best box for VO and production work.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or step it up with a SaffirePro 24, with a very nice and advanced mix software palette.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkzTKpCBAIg&feature
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill, only one problem - the Konnekt6 is firewire not USB. Not many computers come with firewire anymore. I only have USB.
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