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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: MKH416, Over compression and Movie trailers - The History |
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The LA school of VO recording has it that one should angle the Sennheiser MKH416 down at the VO so his lips are 2mm from the talkie end THEN turn the compressor to preset WTF. If all LEDs do not illuminate when the VO looks as if he's about to say something add 40db of gain to everything. Interestingly enough the idea of how to use a 416 for "movie trailers" came from the manager of a Drive-in movie theater (yes I know it's a cinema). Apparently people in the front rows were real b*ggers for not closing their cars door when the filum, sorry "movie" was about to start.
Problem was solved at Drive-ins. Audio punch using above detailed settings was such during the first movie trailer that the energy from the speakers would slam shut any car door within a 15 mile radius. This uniquely American phenomenon is also the explanation for a number of teenage boys who had flat buttocks and pregnant girlfriends.
............IN A WORLD.
SLAM
THUD
OOooow!
"Johnny I WASN'T ready!" |
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Gregory Best The Gates of Troy

Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1853 Location: San Diego area (east of Connie and south and east of Bailey)
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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ROLFLMA -- that is funny! So the 416 is at least partially responsible for the babyboom from the era of the drive-in? _________________ Gregory Best
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Mandy Nelson MMD

Joined: 07 Aug 2008 Posts: 2914 Location: Wicked Mainah
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I've talked with my parents about audio gear before but um, I'm so not discussing this idea with my mother <<hands over ears screaming I DON'T WANT TO KNOW I DON'T WANT TO KNOW I DON'T WANT TO KNOW>> I'm pretty sure that is the reason I have two older brothers... _________________ 006 member of the Sisterhood of the Traveling Mic. Bonded by sound.
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Frank F Fat, Old, and Sassy

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 4421 Location: Park City, Utah
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Phillip writes: "...turn the compressor to preset WTF" |
So that is where I went wrong, I still have not found the" WTF" preset button.
Quote: | and Phillip also quips: "... add 40db of gain to everything." |
I thought that is how they did things for radio anyway.
Here is the analog version of the "Home Studio Compressor".
Toodles
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Rob Ellis M&M

Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Does this explain my strange craving for popcorn everytime I gaze lovingly at a 416?  |
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Chrissy Guest
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Rob made me LOL. Luckily I wasn't drinking anything at the time. |
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Rob Ellis M&M

Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Speaking of drinking, Philip must've been when he came up with this one  |
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todd ellis A Zillion

Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 10531 Location: little egypt
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:17 am Post subject: |
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my older brother's name is four sixteen _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
who's/on/1st?
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7978 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Philip's into the mouthwash again!
Of course they do say, once you've tried black, you never go back.
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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asnively Triple G

Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 3204 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:14 am Post subject: |
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This is exactly what they teach us in those high-priced L.A. VO seminars. And you guys got it free. _________________ the Amy Snively family of brands for all your branded thing needs.
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Rob Ellis M&M

Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:33 am Post subject: |
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I was going to refer to the "symbolic" nature of the 416, purely as a Freudian allusion, but..... |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Better still as a pile of auld sh*te
Above represents a character voice opportunity, southern Irish, may be Co Clare. |
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Gregory Best The Gates of Troy

Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1853 Location: San Diego area (east of Connie and south and east of Bailey)
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:04 am Post subject: |
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PB, why don't you give us your honest opinion of the 416 you used in the wee huttie vs your U87? I've seen no more pix of the 416 in thew huttie only the 87. _________________ Gregory Best
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Sold to Soundgun after three days. Like lettuce, too thin and crispy and very politician like, dishonest. What makes it work as a location sound mic at the end of a boom makes it wrong to my ears for studio based VO work. That's my honest opinion. I used an MKH50 in a studio setting and it is a much better mic for VO work, indeed it's also "digital friendly" for some reason unknown to me. The MKH50 is a smaller mic in terms of length and more expensive. Buyers will get all that they perceive is good about the 416 with some added addy things. |
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