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Tom Test DC

Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 629 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:48 pm Post subject: Do you use different mics for different scripts? |
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Hey there,
As I've gone through the somewhat torturous process of upgrading my studio - including trying out a dozen or so mics over the past few years - I've always wondered about how people really use the mics they own.
Do you have one "go-to" mic that you use for pretty much everything? Or do you have a collection of mics that you use for whatever they seem to be best at (and if so, which mic is best for which application?).
Personally, I like my "new-to-me" TLM-103 on a lot of different types of reads, but not necessarily on everything. I like the warmth of my Rode NTK for warm and fuzzy health care sort of reads, for example. My Kel HM-1 is a darker mic that I use to get a different sort of sound so I have variety in my demos - I've also used it for a testimonial-type read for a radio spot. My AKG 200 is currently out on loan, but I've always liked it for energetic retail reads (haven't been able to compare it yet to my -103, though).
Does anyone use a dynamic mic (RE-20, SM-7, etc) for hard-sell stuff? Any other special use microphones in your collection? _________________ Best regards,
Tom Test
"The Voice You Trust"
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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I use my RE-20 (and now my RE-27!!) for radio commercial stuff, and narrations that will be compressed. For narrations that are to be used full-fidelity and TV ads, I use my Studio Projects C-1. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7978 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:14 am Post subject: |
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I use my Sennheiser 416 shotgun mic for basic reads and "announcery" stuff. I use an AKG C2000B and a GrooveTube AM-11 for "real people" stuff.
I didn't go out to buy the AKG. I got it in exchange for some work I did. I've never seen it recommended as a voice mic, but it suits me well.
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Good thread Tom!
TLM 103: Commercial, Broadcast, International Corporate Multimedia...as in "we're not sure where this is going to play".
Sennheiser e935: E-Learning, Loud High-Energy, Web-Only, Announcer/VOG.
MXL v67g: Some Narration, Character (this mic is really helped by a good preamp...but then you're off to the races laughing for only $99...shame about the 18db self-noise, though).
Everything gets the Speck preamp unless it's a more character driven read, in which case it gets the MPA Gold with rolled tubes. Some narrations get the ART as well. Generally, the MXL and the e935 get the solid state Speck and the 103 gets the MPA Gold.
Bruce, I agree that it's great to find a mic that you weren't really looking for but it fits well. With the e935 I stumbled upon some clips of VO talents that were using it but seemed a bit noobish technically and with their chops...but you could still tell that the mic was really good. That led me to want to see what I could do with it...and viola! It suits me very well. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
and now, http://lanceblairvo.com the blog is there now too! |
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Eddie Eagle M&M
Joined: 23 Apr 2008 Posts: 2393
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:14 am Post subject: |
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I record everything with my NTK in 1 channel and 415 in the other. I listen to the 2 and use whichever fits the bill. |
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 1222 Location: Boss Angeles
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Mics are like wine to me, each one can be properly paired to the dish being served.
For general commercial copy Studio Projects C1, TLM 103, or Gefell UMT 70s.
Hard sell copy, Electro Voice RE-15
Soft whisper or documentaries- Gefell UMT 70s
Characters and Vintage 1930's to 1960's- RCA KU-3A, or RCA 74-B
Vintage 60's to 70's- EV RE-15, Sennheiser MD 421U
Vintage 1920's- Double-Button Carbon Mic.
The preamps are the spice and can be mixed and matched to add distinction to the flavor.
Preampas: Quad-Eight CA-227, RCA BA-31-B, Neve 1272, FMR Audio RNP8380, Avalon, Art MP Tube.
Outboard Gear: LA2A, DBX 160, DBX 166X. |
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Yoda117 M&M

Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2362 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Depends on the mood. They're tools, and though I consider many to be works of art, they're tools none the less.
I usually record with more than one mic, but only because I like to hear the difference. Sometimes, it takes me in a different direction then I'd normally go (at least that's how I justify it, but that reason and $2 will get me a small cup of coffee). Frankly though, if you've got the talent, you don't need a lot to do a lot. I can to a hard sell with a U87 as easily as I can with a U47, or an MXL 990. All three will sound different, but none will sound bad (or at least, I hope not ).
As for what mic is best for what... that's a personal decision. Not every mic is going to work for you, and none will sound the same on you as they will for other people. It's one of the things that makes studio recording as much of an art as it is science. Some of us have multiple mics, preamps, etc. You don't need them to be versatile as a voice actor (though they also serve their place as tools). YOU need to be versatile, the gear won't make you be better than you actually are.
But if you use multiple mics for different types of spots, rock on! It gives you an easier opportunity to explore new avenues without having to play with any dynamic processing. _________________ Voiceovers by Gregory Houser
Philadelphia based Voice Actor
Blog - A man, a martini, and a lot of microphones |
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 1222 Location: Boss Angeles
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yoda117 wrote: | ...if you've got the talent, you don't need a lot to do a lot. I can to a hard sell with a U87 as easily as I can with a U47, or an MXL 990. All three will sound different, but none will sound bad (or at least, I hope not ). | It's not necessarily the the talent we are addressing here it's what each individual mic can bring to the table. Each mic possesses it's own qualities. I can do a hard-sell with a U87 too, but I've found that instead of using the tasteless 416, an RE-15 can cut through the dense soundscapes that often accompanies such productions. Though if I had a U47FET then I would use that, with it's ability to cut through the thicket.
Also the vintage mics that I keep are for the vintage sounds that I produce. Rather then slapping on some cheesy effect, I can reach for a mic that has all the flavor built in.
Yoda117 wrote: | As for what mic is best for what... that's a personal decision. Not every mic is going to work for you, and none will sound the same on you as they will for other people. | Here, here, for that. |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:49 am Post subject: |
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You need to consider different rooms too.  |
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davidmonteath Lucky 700

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 755 Location: Buckinghamshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Somtimes I use differnt cities. Just for the overall ambience. _________________ www.davidmonteath.com
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Basingstoke is ****ing brilliant for CHR imaging reads! Have you tried Garmouth (near the Post Office) for elearning modules? |
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Yoda117 M&M

Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2362 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:47 am Post subject: |
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davidmonteath wrote: | Somtimes I use differnt cities. Just for the overall ambience. |
different time zones have been my key to success. This is predominantly because of the non-extradition status of several countries
One could say I do not perform VO so much as I commit it. Much as one commits any other crime.
For me, I find it interesting that with the microphone collection I own that I really only use two for tracking my own work, and only because I like how both mics sound on pretty much everything.
On the side, U47FET? I own a pair of those. Not as good on spoken word as one might think compared to other mics. For the cost people want for those, I'd expect a lot better, even from a vintage mic. If you want that kind of sound, U87 on a telefunken V76, or just get a good CMV-563. Both are cheaper (by $1,000 or more) and cut through the mix like nobody's business. _________________ Voiceovers by Gregory Houser
Philadelphia based Voice Actor
Blog - A man, a martini, and a lot of microphones |
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voicejones Contributor III

Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 84 Location: Fly Over State
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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I use my AKG C414 for everything and if it needs any special treatment I do it in the editing phase. I always know what mic and settings I've used for the initial read in the event of copy chages. Of course the mic position and levels may be different. The biggest reason I've changed mics in the past for a certain read was for more head room for real hard sell stuff. The 414 handles it all. I'm surprised I don't see more posts about this mic.
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yes but you obviously change mics for consonants, everybody does that! |
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Ed Gambill Cinquecento

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 561 Location: King, NC 35mi SE of Mayberry
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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A fella named DC Douglas uses a 414uls. Among other mics I have a 414EB and have used it on severial occasions.
Of late I have been using the 22-251 Peluso tube. When I get a new ribbon I want to use the RCA 44 ribbon. _________________ Esse quam videri "To be rather than to seem"
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